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RE: typo
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Bluetooth speed
I am currently using a T39 connected to my Vx with infrared. Works nicely when it works ;-)
Want a new Palm anyway, the m515 would fit all my needs. The question is, has the Bluetooth any spoeed advantage over the IrDA port ???
RE: Bluetooth speed
Several other factors can influence Bluetooth's speed. The presence of other 2.4-GHz devices, such as an 802.11b WAN, can degrade performance of a Bluetooth piconet.
RE: Bluetooth speed
> of other 2.4-GHz devices, such as an 802.11b WAN, can degrade
> performance of a Bluetooth piconet.
My understanding of this was that it is the other way around. 802.11b performance can be degraded by Bluetooth devices, but that 802.11b devices do not typically interfere with Bluetooth.
RE: Bluetooth speed
The fun of a T39 with a bluetooth enabled Palm OS device (I saw a demo of the memorystick version long time ago, whatever happened to that?!) is that the phone can be in your pocket and the palm browsing the web in your hand. Wheeee....
For security, the palm to phone connection is protected with a 14 digit code so security is ok there. But if you have your bluetooth enabled on your palm device and don't have it 'hidden' from the network, anyone with a bluetooth device can find you and send you stuff... without your permission.
Palm Source had several cool palm and phone connection demos running. The sad one was the Palm Bluetooth to bluetooth printer demo where someone in the audience took over the printer and the demo person couldn't stop them.
RE: Bluetooth speed
the HP printer has no security in it. Which is kinda flakey, but not a major problem really - it's only a printer. All other devices I've played with have user authentication. don't blame BT/Palm for HP's near-sightedness.
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Sir Tez
IT is a rough life
RE: Bluetooth speed
RE: Bluetooth speed
You can also find them on PlanetOmni and eBay.
RE: Bluetooth speed
peace,
airwhale
RE: Bluetooth speed
m125's absence
Scott
RE: m125's absence
Scott, the only problem with that assessment is that the i705 also has it's card slot on the side. As far as being usable, I think that Palm expects for people to take the card out when not in use. This would save a lot of calls from people who forget to sign off the net and the person's phone minutes are eaten up by a Palm that is sitting in their pocket.
A Palm in hand is worth two in your pocket.
RE: m125's absence
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OW, my BLUETOOTH!!!! I lost my blue tooth..... :(
RE: m125's absence
RE: m125's absence
RE: m125's absence
It works just fine in a 125. The only issue is that it sticks out the side. If you have a 125 and want BT you CAN use the card.
The software DOES NOT go into flash, it uses main memory.
RE: m125's absence
Ed said that the i705 wasn't listed, either. I didn't argue that it wouldn't work with the m125, just that they were probably not listing it because it would be kinda clunky since it would stick out of the side. Quite honestly, it seems to me that it will be worse than clunky, it will actually be uncomfortable to hold an m125 or i705 with the card there, since that's where your hand is supposed to wrap around the device. I also have to disagree with you a bit on the issue of connecting wirelessly. Sure, accessing the internet via a Bluetooth phone will no doubt be one of the biggest uses of it. But, the beauty of Bluetooth, to me, is with a lot of the other things people haven't even thought of yet. Actually, Palm did think of one. Remember the idea about scanning other local Palm OS devices for a list of someone's favorite software? You won't get very far if everyone's walking around with the Bluetooth card in their pocket.
Overall, I'm disappointed. Not just with the fact that it sticks out, but also with the cost. Until Bluetooth PDAs are widespread (enabling the neat stuff I mentioned above), most people are going to be using this basically as a cable-replacement. Is a cable replacement worth $130?
Scott
RE: m125's absence
Also, every time you change phone or PDA you have to buy a new cable. And the cables don't come out for ages after the devices do.
So, if you don't have a cable and may be upgrading your phone or PDA within the next year or so, a BT card might actually be a good investment.
RE: m125's absence
1) If I buy it with the hopes of not having to worry about buying a new cable with every new PDA I buy, I'll be locked into SD devices.
2) With the diminishing costs of Bluetooth, it's possible that future devices will have it built in anyway.
3) The card still sticks out. By the time I got around to buying another PDA without Bluetooth but with an SD slot, I'd be willing to bet that a newer, smaller, cheaper SD Bluetooth card would be available.
Personally, I hope they (and everyone else) get moving on integrating Bluetooth into all of their PDAs ASAP.
Scott
HandEra 330
RE: HandEra 330
Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
Can't wait to use my T39 with the Bluetooth card, BUT I want to see it WORKING first.
RE: Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
RE: Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
The SkyTraveler
RE: Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
RE: Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
http://www.nokia.com/phones/8310/index.html
The US equivalent will be the 8390 which is only 1900
RE: Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
RE: Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
supports GPRS
IR enabled
***NO BLUETOOTH***
RE: Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
Anyone know if the m515 will have built-in Bluetooth?
peace,
airwhale
RE: Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
RE: Nokia 6210 does NOT have Bluetooth
Phone Compatibility in the USA
The SkyTraveler
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
Aren't these sold in the US?
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
Ericsson does upgrade the firmware for free (in my country anyway), and since you got it with activation it should have already been the English version! Anyway, look into your nearest service center - the upgrade takes about 30 minutes. If it's just a matter of firmware change, you have no problems.
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
And as far as GPRS goes, it's not everywhere that Cingular has GSM at.
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
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RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
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Bluetooth Wireless Headset - 98405
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User Manual
COMPATIBILITY:
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The Bluetooth™ Phone Module will not work with any other phone.
RE: Phone Compatibility in the USA
please contact me at herrick@hglightingdesign.com
More information
There are more information available not covered by this article. According to a review (asaik it's first one about the card) on http://www.nexave.de/reviews/bt-sd-card.php the card will work with PalmOS4 and will support m125, m500 and m505. The site tested a card from the bluetooth developer kit from palm. Handera 330 is not supported yet but drivers may be published bei Handera itself.
Delivered Applications:
Blueboard (use memos with up to 4 palms)
BlueChat (chat for up to 4 palms)
BtPrint (print)
Web-Clipping-Applications
Telephone drivers for Sony Ericsson T39, T68, R520M and Nokia 6310
Printer driver for HP DeskJet 995
The review mentioned above includes some screenshots of the bluetooth-pairing-process etc., you just have to click on the small palm icons in the text. There are photos, too.
Range
The tester said that the card works in the range of 18 metres and 10 metres through walls
Excuse my bad English, I just like to give you the most useful information that is possible
Greetings from Germany
RE: More information
Best Wishes from Hannover, Germany.
Torsten Bergemann
Webmaster Nexave Palm Site
Available in the US now @ CDW
I already have a TDK BlueM, which allows me to use the SD slot for expansion, including Internet apps. I'm curious to see if I can get by with these apps on my 8 MB 505. If so, please see my auciton on eBay for a slight-used sled :)
RE: Available in the US now @ CDW
It comes in the now standard blister pack with the Bluetooth SD card, install manual, and Windows/Mac installation CD containing the BT drivers, BT apps, Web Clipping, and WAP program.
Are there any palm bluetooth games?
I'm looking forward to not having to face people I play, or even not having to be in the same room.
Maybe, somebody will release a turn-based civ?
What games would you want?
RE: Are there any palm bluetooth games?
RE: Are there any palm bluetooth games?
Okay, finally of course more games will come out in the future because bluetooth is designed for wireless networking in a short-range for a low throughput. It is cool also if we are able to play majong (yes, I am a Chinese) or bridge or poker. How about some gamble games (for real money)?
Hey, I am too excited. Who cares whether the card stick out. My floppy disk always stick out of my FDD.
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Lie is the future.
RE: Are there any palm bluetooth games?
bluetooth and palm
RE: bluetooth and palm
I also have a Palm M505 with the Bluetooth card, and a ericsson T39m. But they don't work!!!... I did to follow all steps to configure both devices, but when I try to comunicate them, it doesn't work.
Did you have any problem?? ... I'm still waiting an answer form Palm Support.
Thanks.
RE: bluetooth and palm
www.expansys.com shows BT card "in stock"
Saw it at Fry's today
http://www.pdabuyersguide.com
Your online buyer's guide for PDAs
Bought it at Fry's today
RE: Saw it at Fry's today
I picked up 2 tonight.
It seems to be the last two on shelf.
Those salemen there don't even know there is
such a thing for Palm.
ted
Question-About the 8310 Series of The Nokia
expect driver for HandEra
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