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RE: Too Expensive!
As for the price, $25 is steep. Perhaps it can be bundled with software that turns the PDA into either a metal detector (to find coins on the beach, with the Fellows "PDA Extension Stick") or wine corker.
RE: Too Expensive!
RE: Too Expensive!
Info at http://makeashorterlink.com/?T1AA228B
The main deal that both accomplish is they can do macros. That is, one button can be programmed to turn on the amp, switch the input to the DVD player, set the amp to Dolby surround, turn on the DVD player, eject the DVD tray, turn on the TV, set the TV's input to the DVD player, and adjust the picture settings or whatever else you want. Again, that's ONE finger tap.
Myself, I'm going to pay the $25 and check this out. The last time I tried OmniRemote, I didn't have an m505... :-)
Pretty good compared to alternatives
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M6FA318B
All you nay-sayers should learn some restraint the next post/article you're about to bash.
Not Too Expensive!
You need to get over it. This is keeping developers from writing good apps because they know they won't be able to sell them for more than $10 and its not worth it at that price.
RE: Too Expensive for piece of mind
Fire pretty Tree bad
RE: One Handed Usage
You can even share the remote control layouts you create with others. And you get good range with the Palm m505/m515. Very impressive.
RE: not Too Expensive!
nice product
C_Blue
RE: Too Expensive!
You're so confused... Those clies don't HAVE a long range IR port! Previous Clies had a terrible range compared to most other PalmOS devices (see range table on the Omniremote site). Their "long range" IR ports just bring them up to par with the rest of the pack. You don't see Palm hyping about "long range" IR, but for a while it's been the best in the pack. Pacificneotek bench tested to 55 feet (for IR remote purposes, not inter-palm beaming).
Clie long range IR
T615 IR
The high Power IR, which is not used for file transfer, only the Clie RMC program does have better distance. Sony refused to give information on how to use the high power IR, but Pacific Neotek did manage to figure out how to use it, so Yes, OmniRemote does use the high power IR. It is about equivalent to reasonable IR range.
ORDesktop
RE: Too Expensive!
To the person who responded to me, thank you, thats what I needed to know. I guess once my NR comes in, I will be ordering this.
RE: Too Expensive! Let's do it open source !
I could be used to make an open source version of OmniRemote ?
If you have any idea, post your comments on
http://www.palmopensource.com forums to reach me.
RE: Too Expensive!
RE: Too Expensive!
BTW, if you work in an office with IR controlled lights like I do, you can have great fun during boring meetings with this app. Well worth $25. :-)
RE: Too Expensive!
>because handhelds are so small compared to computers you think the software
>prices should also be much smaller. It's as much work to create a palm as as it
>does to create a pc app. Maybe more.
It also takes as much (or more) work to design and manufacture handhelds compared
to desktop computers. Does that mean you are willing to drop a couple thousand
dollars for one? Didn't think so...
RE: Too Expensive!
RE: Too Expensive!
> compared to desktop computers.
You need to be careful when using an analogy because, more often than not, analogies are incorrect.
What you are missing is that, for hardware, the cost of design isn't close the the primary cost. In software, design is just about the only cost. While it may cost more to design a handheld than a laptop, a laptop's screen costs about a $1000. Compared the that, the cost of designing the laptop is negligible. Then you have to add all the other parts, many of which cost hundreds, even when bought wholesale. The most expensive handheld screen,s on the other hand, costs about $100 -- $200. Hardware costs determine the price of hardware, not design.
However, I know you were trying to be obnoxious (and succeeding, BTW) but I have to point out that there are low-end PCs that you can buy for less than the cost of a high end handheld.
RE: Too Expensive!
RE: Too Expensive!
Well think about the poor guys who were not able to get a refund for their T415. They paid about $300 for a remote control!
RE: Too Expensive!
RE: MARMOSET
My Clie n610c would suck!
Why is the Palm m5xx so strong? That's unreal. Palm should've included Remote software with their m5xx PDAs.
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RE: My Clie n610c would suck!
Huh? I don't know what chart you were looking at but I see 8 feet. That's pretty weak but 4x better than what you said.
RE: My Clie n610c would suck!
You're quoting the 8ft range for sending to a "Lego Mindstorms" thing.
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RE: My Clie n610c would suck!
RE: My Clie n610c would suck!
Is this possible?
RE: Is this possible?
RE: Is this possible?
Seriously though, my kids keep taking batteries from the remotes, so OmniRemote would be useful for me. Much better than hunting down GameBoys and Walkmans to get the batteries back.
RE: treo?
RE: treo?
RE: treo?
can't do that, need multi tasking for one app calling up another app (phone -> remote app)
RE: treo?
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If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving definitely isn't for you.
The big picture...
Plus, the remotes that come with the pieces of equipment have a bunch of functions that you really don't use on a regular basis. (How many times do you access the "Setup" menus on your tv? I mean television, not transvestite.)
So you have one item (Palm) with several screens to run everything, but you can also combine functions from each of the remotes onto one screen
for instance
volume control to stero system
tv/video from TV (television)
pause/play from replay4000
channel changer from replay4000
no more switching remotes to access everything.
and $25.00 is not to bad for pricing.
nategall says "blah!"
RE: The big picture...
PDA's shouldnt have pricing more than $10 unless they're Docs to go or that similar product.
I am anonymous.
RE: The big picture...
RE: The big picture...
For me, with only a TV and VCR, $25.00 would be too much, since it would really only be a novelty item. But for my friend who has boatloads of A/V equipment, $25.00 might be a bargain.
Plus, we don't know their business model. Maybe they want to discourage people like me, who might be a pain in the rear to support for only $10.00. The powerusers will pay $25.00, actually read the documentation, and probably never call. Plus, they will all share their collective macros with each other, fostering even more folks to buy the software.
Those are my thoughts, anyway.
Rolando
RE: The big picture...
I saw no bashing of anyone else's opinions here....
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Sean
It is not very comfortable to have the gift of being amused at one's own absurdity.
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RE: The big picture...
RE: The big picture...
If my Palm were anything but an older Sony Clie (with horrible IR range), I'd buy OmniRemote Pro for sure. It looks like a true "killer app" for a color Palm. IMHO. [My previous Palm was a Visor Prism, but I'm planning to sell it (plus the IR is on the left side -- ugh!).]
-Ardee.
RE: The big picture...
RE: The big picture...
I think what I.M. wanted to say/Type was
"$25 is alot of money. (troll)"
to indicate that he was trolling for responses with his statement. I guess (s)he might be talking about a object called "money troll", which might be similar to "bling bling" or other slang terms.
such as
"$25 is alot of bling bling."
but who can tell. For me, it looks like a nice product for a fair price. If you don't think so... well, fine. :)
of course the inflammitory response is
"yeah, $25 is a lot of money, to a crack whore"
but i won't go there!
Have a NR70? Omniremote Developer Needs Your Help!
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RE: Have a NR70? Omniremote Developer Needs Your Help!
Drooling
Forget the faithful?!
Grumble, grumble,
Tip DS
RE: Forget the faithful?!
TRG Pro?
Side note - I used earlier versions of OmniRemote when I worked for the AV department of a local convention center (And was using a PPProfesional/III upgrade). Macro sets are amazing. We had eight diffrent models of VCR's - I created seperate button pages for each VCR type, then made macro sets that transmitted across all the types at once. You need to set a unit to 'Line input'? Hit the [All line remote] button, and wait a sec. There you go! No digging around for a compatable remote. This was also fun for sports bars.
I /am/ the eggman.
IR Boost
I'm probably talkin outta my ass....
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What's Wrong With This Picture?
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Blue-sky tinkering with IR.
Many LEDs, if not all, are MUCH more sensitive to being overdriven than regular light bulbs.
So, unless they deliberately over-specified the IR LEDs in your handheld (Unlikely in this price climate), trying to increase the (micro)voltage or (mili)amprage going to the transmitter will probably just junk the LED.
There might not be anything to stop you from replacing a low quality emitter part with something more efficient, however. But it might open up a can-of-worms as far as frequency calibration of the signal - Something this app is pretty dependant on.
Also nothing stopping you from getting one of the IR-test strips from Radio Shack and finding out if you've got a sloppy emitter design (Take off the case, set the handheld to transmit, and see if it's blowing a large percentage of it's IR into it's case instead of out the window. Compare signal strength with unit in and out of case - It woulden't be the first time somebody used the wrong plastic in the IR window.) You might even want to see if there's some way for you to 'patch the holes' - Painting the off edges of the IR LED with a silver paint comes to mind (or maybe Tin foil
Hope that helps.
I /am/ the eggman.
RE: IR Boost
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m50x IR that good?
Can anyone with an m50x tell us how it performs?
Fatal Exception with m505?
"Remote" 2.01 has just read directly from the CPU registers. This technique is not permitted for PalmOS applications and may not work in future Palm products which have hardware changes. "Remote" will likely crash this or future Palm devices...
Has anyone else run into the same problems?
RE: Fatal Exception with m505?
RE: Fatal Exception with m505?
Omni Remote im PALM m505 = Fatal Exception
Clie support
MARMOSET
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Too Expensive!