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RE: this just in
I'm so famous that I wish to remain anonymous.
I use Datebk5. Why doesn't PIC do an interview on me?
RE: this just in
Please remove this news story. Because it is *not* news.
RE: this just in
This is an effort to restore Iambic credability and it reeks of endorsement.
I thought you were better than this Ed.
Im off to PDABuzz.
RE: this just in
RE: this just in
RE: this just in
: Full of hate, my god it's only a Palm not a religion,
: weapon, political party, ...
Hmm. You're new here, aren't you? :)
Jim
RE: this just in
I don't think so...
Second, if you search at the Clio Award website, this guy isn't listed anywhere. (http://www.clioawards.com/html/main.isx)
Perhaps this is simply further evidence of Iambic's intellectually challenged marketing program...
RE: I don't think so...
RE: I don't think so...
Very strange way to advertise Action Names. But, maybe Ruhm is the right choice as a spokesmodel. Given that he's been reduced to doing commercials, I bet desperate searches through his contact list are very important to him. :-)
"Just the facts, ma'am."
RE: I don't think so...
However, I think this hardly classifies as news. Ed, what happened here? Feeling bad about all of the dakebk5.com garbage? This should never have made the front page....
RE: I don't think so...
I contradict the mainstream
I made a search as well - the result:
Year: 2002
Award: Bronze
Entry Type: Television/Cinema
Category: Campaign
Advertiser/Product/Service: Oesterreichischer Tierschutzverein
Title: Unabashed
Title: Restaurant
Title: Shopping
Advertising Agency: TBWA, Berlin
Production Company: Mican Film, Vienna
Music Company: Soundtrack
Creative Director: Christoph Klingler
Copywriter: Helge Bloeck, Christoph Klingler
Producer: Ernst Mican
Director: David Ruehm
Contrary to the mainstream - find the story very interesting and the movies very funny indeed.
The Palm idea can only benefit from that. On the other hand PIC is loosing non-posting visitors 8they leave in disgust) if the ongoing brainless iambic beating shall continue.
So please see the story calm as what it is, as a good free advertisement of the international Palm idea – and appreciate the fact that another stone proves the competence of Palms in the industry
My two sober cents
RE: I don't think so...
Ed typed "David Ruhm" instead of "David Ruehm".....
so everything in this thread is just a misuderstanding................
Alan
----
Read your manuals before you ask!!
RE: I don't think so...
RE: iambic Again
Mr. Ruhm said, "My success is partially due to iambic’s Action Names Datebook, which is truly the best contact manager and organizer I have ever used. I have been using the program to plan my films, coordinate castings worldwide, schedule meetings with studios and investors, and, of course, to keep my contacts up-to-date and easily available wherever I go. For a film director with such an intense schedule, using Action Names Datebook is like having a personal assistant at my side, any time of day."
LMAO ... I just cant' stop laughing at how stoopid this sounds. It sounds like such a fake testimonial ... from someone who no one has ever heard of. So what he uses AN????? SO WHAT??? Give me a break!!!! This is just free advertising for Iambic for a 'news' item that's not even worthy.
RE: iambic Again
So he is a world authority on which is the best schedule organiser now? It's just one man's experience - out of hundreds of thousands out there. It would be interesting if he was an expert software tester whose tested each Palm app in depth or he was someone of significance but WHO CARES WHAT HE THINKS and how are we to know whether his views are based on experiencing each datebook app? P.S. I use AN myself.
Palmtop-Pro answers
We have indeed proudly published in nearly every Palmtop-Pro magazine in the last years articles from David.
David is rated as a very competent expert here in Europe on professional Palm and Psion software – besides having completed a bulkload of extremely successful films for cinemas in Europe.
Besides doing commercials for non profit organisations as like in that very case for the protection of wild animals.
He donated his work as in many other cases related to wildlife and humanistic projects absolutely for free – we know, he even sponsored these efforts financially.
So he is geared with his ideology in the same direction as the makers of Datebook 4&5– to protect wildlife.
I do not see anything wrong with this.
And I duly hope the majority of silent readers do as well.
Boris Michael Luhovoy
publishing editor
Palmtop-Pro magazine
RE: iambic Again
If I cared what he thinks I would read your magazine or read his articles if he was an official PIC reviewer.
This story is not only a stupid advertisement for Iambic, but it also seems a vehicle of publicity for your publication.
Don't get me wrong, I admire and respect what you do, but I really couldn't care less what a 'bronze' winning film maker without an international reputation does with his Palm. Everyone knows AN is a great app - I use it every day in a business that is 10 times bigger in terms of scale and revenue than what a small film director is involved in.
However, the problem is that this news story is just one big useless advertisement for your magazine and Iambic. It doesn't tell us anything new, it's not funny, it's not critical, it's just nothing. It's just some guy's opinion (if it was a review, it would be different). This item should be a comment in a thread, not an article on PIC.
Yes, much of PIC stories are just recycled press releases which are in themselves advertisements, but at least they inform us about new developments and as such they are 'news'.
There is absolutely no way anyone can justify this as a news story worthy of an entire article (praising AN in such a shameless way). There is more to this than we are being told and shame on PIC's editors for dropping their usually exceptionally high standards.
RE: iambic Again
-This story is not only a stupid advertisement for Iambic, but it also seems a vehicle of publicity for your publication.-
No it is not. And here is the prove:
Our magazine is in German only - now how many of you are fluent enough in German language to follow a highly technical dedicated magazine?
Now - I consider that point as clarified.
You see - we do not win anything commercially - we are just proud having such an indeed international figure on board- by the way David worked in the Hollywood studios for a few years.
And the three movies we show on our page are very funny indeed.
So – what’s wrong with having a little fun?
We simply want to get the Palm idea around – even in cases we do not profit.
Excuse my humble English - it’s not my mother-tounge – and I would not be fluent enough to follow a highly technical magazine in english.
Just get over it and have fun (also with Palm) instead of dark ideas!
BvL.
RE: iambic Again
None of your arguments are valid. What is at issue here is that he is blatantly endorsing Action Names and he is being quoted so significantly.
Face facts: he may be a big Hollywood director in your eyes, because he's from your region, but the rest of the world (and most of Hollywood) has never heard of him.
I wouldn't have a problem with this story if it was just a link to the films on your site in gMovie format or TealMovie etc. - that would be 'fun', interesting, cool and newsworthy. Even then, it should only be a two sentence item in a news-round up.
However, the story has unecessary advertising for Action Names. The story should be deleted as it is just embarassing.
Shut Up!!
Now you're even bagging on Palm Pro Mag. for using some guy's opinion you don't even know, for stating what he personally thinks of a piece of software. Using your logic, Palm TipSheet is merely a long propaganda rag! I don't think so.
It seems nothing will please you, that you will always find something to complain about or criticize. Criticism is beneficial when done constructively, but I see no constructive suggestions here, only diatribe.
What's the matter, didn't your mommy ever teach you? If you don't have positive input, don't give input (also quoted by mothers the world over as "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anyting at all").
Do the rest of us a favor and SHUT UP! Your constant whining is giving us headaches and making us ill.
_________________
Sean
It is not very comfortable to have the gift of being amused at one's own absurdity.
-Somerset Maugham-
Boris - I thought you vowed to never post here again
RE: iambic Again
Even if this would be true - I state i'ts not good manners to rate people qualitys on basis if they come from certain areas of the world or belong to certain groups. I do not want to elaborate further.
And my friend - the world is a lot bigger as your comparable tiny home known map.
Have a look at a good globe...
BvL
I sign off for good - there's all said
RE: iambic Again
RE: iambic Again
Uh... no.
Iambic's stupid arrogant mistake just happened, and it is nowhere NEAR time to forgive and forget.
RE: iambic Again
What personal loss have you encurred to be so full of hate?
Despirate Times, Despirate Measures
RE: Despirate Times, Despirate Measures
or ... maybe Iambic hacked PIC and messed with the news feeds!
Ed: is it April Fool's Day?
The guy is a non-figure in the global sense (and PIC has a global audience) - perhaps famous within the indie film community in Austria. So what he uses Action Names? LMAO. I bet not even Austrian readers would be interested in reading that. It's not interesting. It's not significant. It's not in any way a 'cool to know' news item. It's not even funny.
This is probably the easiest advertising spot Iambic will ever get. I bet they're laughing their asses off too.
I know it's a slow news day, but this is just ridiculous.
RE: Ed: is it April Fool's Day?
Just my $0.02.
RE: Ed: is it April Fool's Day?
Actually I am from Austria, and I have never heard anything from this guy...
I did not know that advertising is now possible on PIC.
RE: Ed: is it April Fool's Day?
But you often see a film directed from someone not knowing who really made it.
For example the newest t-mobile spot (biggest mobile and internet provider in Europe) running in all TV stations all over Europe from Spain to Austria this week (the one with soundless b/w episodes) was for example directed by Ruehm – did you know that?
To question now the competence of Mr. Ruehm in filming industy (as a scapegoat to have a lame argument to hurt iambic) is as silly as cheap.
RE: Ed: is it April Fool's Day?
(Self-confessed Palm Geek)
Weak ethics must be a contagious disease
This is very sad.
RE: Weak ethics must be a contagious disease
RE: Weak ethics must be a contagious disease
I simply cannot believe that Ed willingly included this story. He was either pressured by Iambic to do something so as to save future advertising revenue, the site was hacked by Iambic or Ed has totally lost his sense of editorial skill!
I keep saying that those dudes at Iambic are losers
We also use and recommend action names.
Here at the University of Puerto Rico we use and recommend to our students quality software (that's why we use LINUX! instead of Windowze and Macinsuck). And we definitely recommend Iambic software, due to the quality and the fact that Iambic does all their programming on Emacs on linux! boxes.
University of Puerto Rico
Computer Engineering department
visit us at:
http://ece.uprm.edu
RE: We also use and recommend action names.
And if your truly believe that the quality of software is determined by the platform used to develop it, you're not only too stupid to be working or studying at a university, you also fall nicely into the category of boring nitwits who rather keep these inane rants against competing OS's going on than actually use their supposedly superior LINUX. I guess we Windows and Mac users feel secure enough with our OS's that we don't feel the need to make a life's work out of bashing the competition.
RE: We also use and recommend action names.
> Dept. software analysts use and recommend Action
> Names over competing products.
Who cares?
Academy award
RE: Academy award
ActionNames Datebook's high res support is much better than datebk's too.
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Place To Be For Sony Clie Discussion
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Worst Story Ever!
~Cal
RE: Worst Story Ever!
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Fammy
RE: Worst Story Ever!
Weird Story
Not a Weird Story
We have indeed proudly published in nearly every Palmtop-Pro magazine in the last years articles from David.
David is rated as a very competent expert here in Europe on professional Palm and Psion software – besides having completed a bulkload of extremely successful films for cinemas in Europe.
Besides doing commercials for non profit organisations as like in that very case for the protection of wild animals.
He donated his work as in many other cases related to wildlife and humanistic projects absolutely for free – we know, he even sponsored these efforts financially.
So he is geared with his ideology in the same direction as the makers of Datebook 4&5– to protect wildlife & humanistic efforts.
I do not see anything wrong with this.
And I duly hope the silent majority of readers do as well.
Boris Michael Luhovoy
publishing editor
Palmtop-Pro magazine
RE: Weird Story
The article does not explain that he is a pro Palm user. Even if he is a pro Palm user with a wide ranging experience, then tell him to join the club - there are thousands of us on the planet, and not all of us use Action Names.
The problem here is that his voice is being given such an unusual airing: his testimonial is just one big sound byte. What next, will we get articles every day from mediocre professionals (and yes, he is mediocre by international standards) telling us how amazed they are by each and every app they use? I certainly hope not because it is irresponsible journalism and quite frankly a waste of space and time for readers.
I clicked on the story expecting some deep insight or a revelation by a top European director. Put it this way, I work in the film production industry in the UK and I've never heard of this guy, so I empathise with anyone else whose scratching their head thinking 'David Who?'. There is no way you can defend this story Boris. I should imagine you're only responding because you're also getting publicity out of this and are keen to defend the story to keep it posted here. As another poster said, it's pathetic.
RE: Weird Story
If you weren't so redundant (especially not even bothering to paraphrase, but literally cutting and pasting), I'd take your word for it. But now, you're just sounding like a troll.
At least try to vary your rebuttals, for some of us "silent" readers which wouldn't mind hearing more points of views that (at the very least) SOUND credible.
When Spielberg, Coppola, Stone, or Scorsese uses it...
RE: When Spielberg, Coppola, Stone, or Scorsese uses it...
RE: When Spielberg, Coppola, Stone, or Scorsese uses it...
RE: When Spielberg, Coppola, Stone, or Scorsese uses it...
You probably even believe that BMW marketing has not payed any money for and that 007 coexists with Snowhite and the dwarfs in real life - do you?
RE: When Spielberg, Coppola, Stone, or Scorsese uses it...
You mean... they don't?! :(
Why?
Ed, you and PIC are better than this. But everybody makes mistakes. Let's pretend this never happened.
RE: Why?
"Let's pretend this never happened."
Does this apply only to PIC, or can we use this towards iambic too? :)
Mr. Ruhm
RE: Mr. Ruhm
I am not engaged with the movie industry in Austria but even I know Ruehm - but a troll always can claim one even does nor exist.
So I invite everybody to make a search in Google for David Ruehm see how many entries connected with the national and international film industry are found and prove you a liar.
It seems that something is going on here beyond the scope of Palm interests. A kind of withchunt.
RE: Mr. Ruhm
Did a search:
for "David Ruehm" (quotation marks included
to exclude irrelevant hits).
Results 1 - 7 of about 9
I wouldn't say that is a lot of hits.
I invite anyone else to try that as well!
RE: Mr. Ruhm
The first result is called "The Elephant's Psion Page" and the URL suggests that it is Mr. Ruehm's personal web space from his ISP, www.chello.at. On that page, a program called "LottoWizard V2.40" for the Psion is featured. There is no indication whether the application was written by Mr. Ruehm and the web page was last updated July 28, 2001. No references to Palm whatsoever.
The Google sub-result to the above is Mr. Ruehm's listing in Chello Members' Webspace and a link to the above Elephant's Page.
The third Google result is just a re-direct from Mr. Ruehm's former personal home page on CompuServe to Chello.at.
The fourth result appears to be a film event in early December 2000 that lists a short (3 minutes, 15 seconds) 35mm film named "SPAGHETTO" made in 1993 by Mr. Ruehm.
The fifth and sixth results are web pages listing Psion software and having a link to Mr. Ruehm's LottoWizard page at Chello.at. No links to Palm here, either.
The seventh and last result from Google lists a 1996 film entitled "Azzurro", by Mr. Ruehm. It is listed in the Filmography page of a web site about actress Babsy Artner. I would assume that Ms. Artner appears in "Azzurro."
Google did not find hundreds of results. FYI.
RE: Mr. Ruhm
Searched the web for David Ruehm. Results 1 - 10 of about 100. Search took 0.05 seconds.
Searched the web for David Rühm. Results 1 - 10 of about 875. Search took 0.10 seconds.
Searched the web for David Ruhm. Results 1 - 10 of about 9,550. Search took 0.16 seconds.
(not all but most pages her belong to Ruehm especially the entries to the Cannes Film Ferstival and all movie related entries)
The difference comes from the fact that you can write european names with accent in very different ways - its alwys the same man.
RE: Mr. Ruhm
Maybe Google targets their search engine based on
your country? Because my searches do not come
ANYWHERE near that many hits, and I'm located in
Canada.
At any rate, the point of this is that most of
North America, Asia, and I can probably say, Australia
has never heard of this guy.
RE: Mr. Ruhm
who managed to get 9,000 hits obviously doesn't read
instructions, or is on crack.
Why? Because there's a lot of irrelevant hits when
you search without quotation marks!
The exact same search is as follows with
quotation marks to eliminate irrelevant hits:
"David Ruhm" 1-10 of about 112
"David Rühm" 1-10 of about 58
"David Ruehm" 1-7 of about 9
I'm not saying whether he IS or ISN'T important. I'm
just stating a fact.
Huh?
What kind of crap story is this?
What a waste. Way to cave in to Iambic.
crap story
People want to read good news(confirmed, exciting), not rumors or silly stuff....Now I know why I come here less and less.
:/
RE: What kind of crap story is this?
Most of the self-proclaimed "active & posting" Palm user seem to from a medical point of view use their misunderstood weird and religious motivated "Palm-love" not for duty but as a drug to heal there own psychological shortcomings. The Palm as a simple tool cannot run away from them. If he could he would.
Reminds me of the crusade from middle age to 9/11
Otherwise it is unexplainable why some in the audience have nothing in mind as to try to smear **** on iambic and everybody who mention this company’s name like PIC or even a completely unknown magazine in a foreign language. Iambic is a company, which makes very good, if not the best Palm software. Would you rather be more happy having again a software producer and magazine switching sides to M$ or even close down?
Is this what you rally want?
Then your in fact M$ best propaganda machine
RE: What kind of crap story is this?
Last year there were several pieces (on several sites) about a polar expedition taking along certain programs. I don't recall as negative a reaction, but then I don't recall them sounding so much like a commercial.
I would have expected a comment from Ed on a story getting so much attention, but I believe that this is a holiday weekend in the US, so maybe he's not aware of the debate as yet? Maybe we'll get a reaction during the week...
Dryden
RE: What kind of crap story is this?
(Also, I don't find anything in this article that is non-sense or offensing. Please keep your good work, Ed!)
RE: What kind of crap story is this?
Some people like to sound self-important.
RE: What kind of crap story is this?
--Some people like to sound self-important.--
And some are indeed – and it is interesting to analyse.
They’re 4 groups here over / under represented – you choose.
1.) The one posting anonymously or behind a alias name to throw trash and wild accusations at random with a lot of fanatism (called the mainstream)
2.) The one posting anonymously or behind a alias name not to get flamed for not being 100% in line with the trash hurling mainstream whackos. (like me)
3.) The Palmtop-Pro magazine Editor has nothing to do either with iambic or with PIC and is the only one who sticks his neck out with full name postings here.
And consequently get flamed for being guilty to allow that in his Palm magazine there is a report that a movie director uses a Palm. Why this gentleman even responds here at all to the low-knee-level postings on PIC remains a mystery to me. No other magazine rep in the world would do that.
4.) The mayor group, who scratches their head why in the world there are people getting so upset that PIC is reporting on a fact that a more or less prominent filmmaker who got a US award uses a Palm.
I’m with group 2&4
RE: Thank you doc.
"The unreflected blind and destructive energy of most of the posters here leads to the diagnosis:
Most of the self-proclaimed "active & posting" Palm user seem to from a medical point of view use their misunderstood weird and religious motivated "Palm-love" not for duty but as a drug to heal there own psychological shortcomings. The Palm as a simple tool cannot run away from them. If he could he would."
Have no idea what you means but its exciting to know
Dr.Frasier Crane posts here.
VULTURES?
Nevertheless, give Ed a break. I've been reading the site since 2000?, and if I see a "news item" that I don't care for, I go on. BTW - I saw a reference to a German site - can I have the address?
No more this kind of story please.....
RE: No more this kind of story please.....
2. Learn how to spell.
3. Grow up.
RE: No more this kind of story please.....
It's a silly story, and coming right after the iambic fiasco, it seems even more so.
Lighten up on the criticism, sheesh.
What is really important
AL (commenting from my NR70)
RE: What is really important
The problem is that it really does read like an advertisement, like an attempted product endorsement. For me, it has nothing to do with which product it is. I'd rather click on PIC and find that there wasn't any news that day than be "mis-lead" into reading an article with no informational value. There have been other "articles" in the past that also were guilty of this, but none ever seemed so blatant to me.
At a minimum, I hope Ed sees that PIC readers in general would rather not see product endorsements masquerading as PIC articles.
RE: What is really important
Know that most of us support you.
(Self-confessed Palm Geek)
I beg your pardon?
datebk5.com
Read, Moron.
Bias is Bias. You can have all kinds of excuse, but most of you are bias.
I'm here to educate you. If you are reading a news, you should read what's important in it. In this case, it's the PalmOS platform for what he's talking about.
RE: Read, Moron.
RE: Read, Moron.
If your fluent in German this site proves:
http://www.palmtop-pro.com/onltexte/ruehm3.htm
1.) The story came from the magazine Palmtop-Pro
2.) The German text is focused on personal matters besides Palm & Psion OS
To understand this and the history of this thread you have to know German - otherwise your just talking around something you do neither understand nor know about.
In other words -- thats bad manners.
RE: Read, Moron.
RE: Read, Moron.
http://www.palmtop-pro.com/onltexte/ruehm3.htm )
and then click "Press Release" under the Iambic "ad" on the left, you'll be directed to an English web page showing that the "news" article is indeed a promotional press release from Iambic. Iambic's Press Contact is listed on the left. The last half of the press release plugs Action Names, Iambic, and Palmtop-Pro.
RE: Read, Moron.
RE: Read, Moron.
Ok...
For what it's worth, I like Iambic better than Datebk5 as well.
-Biff K
RE: Ok...
RE: Ok...
RE: Ok...
Great Story!
The University of Puerto Rico Computer Engineering Dept. software analysts use and recommend Action Names over competing products.
Here at the University of Puerto Rico we use and recommend to our students quality software (that's why we use LINUX! instead of Windowze and Macinsuck). And we definitely recommend Iambic software, due to the quality and the fact that Iambic does all their programming on Emacs on linux! boxes.
University of Puerto Rico
Computer Engineering department
visit us at:
http://ece.uprm.edu
Smart people use Linux and Action Names.
RE: Great Story!
This comment has to be written by an Iambic employee...
RE: Great Story!
My opinion on this is that I think it should have been presented in another way, and not like a commercial for AN!
RE: Great Story!
Raise your voice (for iambic) and you get troubles - be in line (Datebook) and you get candys.
And you want to bomb Hussein for being a bad boy?
RE: Great Story!
Scumbags!
RE: Great Story!
BTW I have heard that the University of Botswana and the College of Higher learning in Uganda both prohibit the use of Action Names within their campuses citing loss of important data by poorly written code. Armed guards travel in pairs throughout each campus checking all Palm pilots for the insidious software...
RE: Great Story!
should read correct:
...BTW I have heard that PIC prohibit the use of Action Names...
RE: Great Story!
Raise your voice (for iambic) and you get troubles - >be in line (Datebook) and you get candys.
>And you want to bomb Hussein for being a bad boy?
Um, you're actually comparing people showing a disgust over a company's clumsy, underhanded attempts at PR with a murderous dictator who has deployed chemical weapons against his own people, literally butchered (aka chopped up)dissenting members of his own government, and is constantly threatening to invade neighboring countries?
Amazing.
You're right, WE'RE the unreasonable ones. More power to Iambic.
RE: Great Story!
news-worthy?
RE: news-worthy?
PIC has a long history of fair and even-handed reporting which its readers have come to expect. A story such as this reads like a fluffed-up press release, or worse yet, some kind of PR media guide. Readers do not expect this kind of tripe from PIC. Your suggestion, Psikotic, that readers "don't read it" if they "don't like it" is reductive and childish (and in this case, also impossible: you can't exactly 'unread' the article after you've finished it). There are deeper issues here than liking or not liking a particular story--Palm InfoCenter's integrity is somewhat in doubt, if just for a moment. That Ed hasn't yet responded to these legitimate issues is further troubling.
And I'm sure Ed does care about his readership, despite your protestations to the contrary.
RE: news-worthy?
RE: news-worthy?
RE: news-worthy?
"News-peddlers, if they are serious about their craft, have an obligation to maintain the distinction between events that are honest news and those which are pap."
Agreed, except that the distinction is a matter of opinion. We see it from reporters to newspapers to TV news. To those that like Action Names (I use Dtbk5) this was an interesting read. For the record, I didn't particularly care for the story.
"PIC has a long history of fair and even-handed reporting which its readers have come to expect. A story such as this reads like a fluffed-up press release, or worse yet, some kind of PR media guide."
Yes, it might have been biased, but everyone is forgetting that this is an interview from another source, not from PIC. Ed thought it relevant due to the fact that Palm is mentioned in an interview about the Clio. If Spielberg starts going into how much he loves Bejeweled in an interview, I guarantee that it would be posted here. Does that mean that Ed is an Astrawhore? PIC has consistently posted about any mainstream (or other) article that mentions Palm. This one just happens to coincide with the Iambic fiasco.
"Readers do not expect this kind of tripe from PIC."
What kind of tripe did you expect? 'Save Telephone Troubles with BeamDial'? Come on, this is a site about handhelds! In perspective, it is all tripe.
"There are deeper issues here than liking or not liking a particular story--Palm InfoCenter's integrity is somewhat in doubt, if just for a moment."
In doubt by whom? There are only a handful of people posting here who state they doubt it (anonymously). And those that are so quick to question PIC's integrity, I don't know that they had much respect for it in the first place. If I respected someone's integrity, my first reaction isn't to call them a sell-out when there is a disagreement.
"That Ed hasn't yet responded to these legitimate issues is further troubling."
Why troubling? He didn't do anything wrong. There is nothing that he has to justify to anybody. Don't like how he writes, don't read his stuff. Do you read editorials in the paper from reporters you don't like, then complain about them? I like the response of the previous poster, "Ed probably hasn't responded because this is all very petty- I had no idea so many 7th grade girls were fans of Palm Infocenter." You know what? He is probably right.
"And I'm sure Ed does care about his readership, despite your protestations to the contrary."
If the small handfull of those who posted here carried out their threats and never came back, I'm sure Ed would somehow manage to find the strength to carry on. But that is a non-issue as, unfortunately, all of the threats are hollow. You will all be back, no doubt bitching about another article in the future and about how PIC is biased one way or another. sigh...
RE: news-worthy?
It looks like this issue is played out, so I guess I won't be coming back to this thread, but let me just say:
1) *IF* Ed accepted some form of compensation for publishing an article, that'd be disappointing. More to the point, it would be de-legitimizing--most respectable news media clearly distinguishes between news, editorial content, and advertising. Advertising, under any guise, isn't really news, and to pass it off as such is a cynical abuse of the Fourth Estate. When Sony's fake movie critic was exposed, the ensuing uproar was over the passing-off of paid advertisment as legitmate criticism, even though film criticism is hardly the frame of civilization. If Ed did take payment, he sure didn't disclose it. Citing sources and disclosing should be a natural part of reporting the news.
2) The article in question reads like an advertorial. Ryan even responds that it was taken from a press release.
3) If you accept 1) and 2), it logically follows that compensation may have been involved. Do I believe that? No (and Ryan's reply denied it). But surely you can understand the concern that it was true.
Why?
YOU LOST CRED, ED!
Don't do a "Chris Pirillo" will ya?
YOU DO NOT LOOS CRED, ED!
And another problem in the information age becomes visible – one depending on the opinion of another unchecked information builds his own opinion and cries it out loud
If you could read German you would find the link a very moderate and interesting Story not mentioning iambic, Action Name or any other software product.
The only product mentioned in the provided link from Ed are Palm and Psion.
What all of you comment is a text following a tiny link on that providet page.
Fair is fair – so please be fair and build your opinion on facts - not fiction.
Boris Michael von Luhovoy
Publishing editor
Palmtop-Pro Magazine
www.palmtop-pro.com
RE: YOU LOST CRED, ED!
What we are interested in is what was said in THIS online magazine.
"better to have something posted on a slow weekend"?
If we try new things, we're bound to make a few mistakes: not a problem if we learn from them!
Dryden
RE:
I guess the question for me still remains: who wrote the blurb itself? It so reeks of marketeeze it is hard to believe it wasn't copied verbatim from some iambic press release.
Just to assure myself I wasn't imagining what I was reading, I went back through a dozen or more pages in the PIC archive trying to find a similar story about another product. While I found plenty of single-product announcements, they invariably contained some element that was new to the community, and there was certainly none of this insipid "like having a personal assistant at my side, any time of day" nonsense.
BTW, not all the people asking the questions did so anonymously. The insertion of that word into your update seemed to be an attempt to dis your critics.
Let me close by saying that I am an extremely unimportant engineer in a tiny Canadian software engineering company and I use DateBk5! I figure that statement ought to be more than enough to balance out this plug for AN from Mr. "Important-And-Oh-So-Busy-Director-That-Makes-Ads-That-Win-Bronze-Clios" Ruehm.
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