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It will also seek to grow its business by increasing sales in new markets like China and Brazil, instead of mainly concentrating on the U.S. market, where it is already the dominant player.
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RE: Will there be a cheap lower model of the OS 5?
RE: Will there be a cheap lower model of the OS 5?
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$ 89.00 in three colors.
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C - U - Benahamou?
RE: Will there be a cheap lower model of the OS 5?
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As heard on "Cheers":
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Norm:The warranty on my liver!
RE: Will there be a cheap lower model of the OS 5?
: Samsung
Not sure why you would pick Samsung as the first company to bring out a low end OS5 model, but that would be an interesting idea.
Samsung uses Palm OS for their smart phones, so they are more than familiar with Palm OS development. However, it'll probably be a feeble attempt for them to bring out low end devices here in the States since there is already a plethora of low end devices to choose from. Of course, if we're just talking about OS5 devices, then they have to do it first, and most of all, do it right.
But I seriously doubt this would be a possibility mainly because Samsung doesn't even make Palm OS branded PDA's in Korea. (Of course, I could be wrong and if I am, that would be great news for me since I'm looking for a Palm PDA with Korean language support. ^_^)
What's also interesting to me is that Palm markets to Korea, but they only sell English version Palms over there, yet everything on their site (http://palm.co.kr/) is in translated in Korean. But my question is: who would buy an "English only" PDA in Korea? What Palm should do is sign up with a major industrial leader (i.e. Samsung) and start developing localized versions of Palm PDA's. Now that OS5 will have high res support, maybe someone can create a Palm OS device with Korean language support, so that the characters dont' have to look ugly in low res.
I've seen some popular non-PalmOS branded PDA's in Korea and some I would consider "bricks" in terms of form factor, not to mention the ugly OS interface. Then again, that was 2 years ago, so who knows how far they've come? ;)
Jim
RE: Will there be a cheap lower model of the OS 5?
like the oslo.
Excellent
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RE: Excellent
any execution yet.
I haven't seen a decent low end Palm yet.
And a good OS5 Palm.
They talked about entering China market for 2 years already. But they are still not there.
I hope it won't take them this long to produce
a good OS5 Palm or the low end Palm.
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RE: Excellent
: releasing a hires device. If you thought 160x160 was
: bad for roman languages, try reading Chinese on it.
I've had similiar opinions about CJK in general. Latin based languages are fine at that resolution, but CJK is horrible. Sony did right in making high resolution CLIÉs for easier readability of Japanese characters.
A bit of a longshot, but has anyone here had any experience in trying to install Chinese or Korean fonts on a high res CLIÉ? I'd imagine that if this was possible, the result would be just as good as Japanese characters. The only Korean PDA's I've seen were non-Palm OS branded ones and they looked bad. (I guess this includes the ACER one with Chinese on it.)
I would sincerely hope that OS5 built-in high resolution support will allow a greater CJK presence. I yearn for the day when I can use Korean fonts on my Palm. :)
Jim
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> Latin based languages are fine at that
> resolution, but CJK is horrible. Sony did right
> in making high resolution CLIÉs for easier
> readability of Japanese characters.
Many people already installed Chinese language support on Clie. I also installed a Chinese language system under English version Clie and it works very well.
RE: Excellent
for a long time. And they use Chinese char.
So this is not a problem.
Chinese PalmOS
Hmm. Are you talking about Palm Inc. (the company that makes the hardware) or PalmSource Inc. (the company that owns the platform/operating system)?
If the latter, you're mistaken: Acer introduced their S10 PalmOS device in October 2001 (10 months ago). [ref.: www.palmevolution.com]
RE: Excellent
I had it on my Palm 500 from work which I soon shelved, it's a joke, can't compare. Mind you, the same is true of those accented characters we use in other European languages.
Sure, all this also works with b&w low-res, the abacus is fine for basic arythmetic too when nothing else is available. IMO, Palm won't get market share in China/Taiwan unless it has low cost+hi res.
Yv [yves.goulnik@roche.com]
http://goulniky.free.fr/
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Oh boy, now we can look forward to the ''June Clever'' Palm -
As if the Claudia S. and Michael Jordan Palms weren't enough. I guess we'll now see a B&W device called the "June Clever" Palm branded handheld. Installed apps to include: Cookbook, Soccer Mom Manager and Menstrual Cycle Calculator.
Can't wait to see it Palm! :)
RE: Oh boy, now we can look forward to the ''June Clever'' P
Who cares if women make up half the world's population? If they just stayed in the kitchen where they belong, they wouldn't want PDAs.
(Everyone else please forgive me. I couldn't let jonecool's sexist and racist comment pass.)
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It's called humor, some people like that kind of thing. Go figure.
RE: Oh boy, now we can look forward to the ''June Clever'' P
It is always sad when people display their ignorance for all the world to see. Palm had nothing to do with the Michael Jordan and Claudia Schiffer Palms. A separate company called PTN Media bought them from Palm, rebranded them, then sold them. You'd know that if you weren't so busy trying (unsuccessfully) to be funny.
RE: Oh boy, now we can look forward to the ''June Clever'' Palm -
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Ward, I think you were a little hard on the Beaver.
RE: Oh boy, now we can look forward to the ''June Clever'' Palm -
RE: Oh boy, now we can look forward to the ''June Clever'' Palm -
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Well, I certainly hoped the Thought Police stay away from the PIC, but I am proven wrong once again. There was nothing racist in his post, just a joke that was not funny. Why don't you go read The Times or listen to Alec Baldwin instead of read "racist" postings here. You will be much more content listening to crazy lefties vs. pda zealots...
NOT RACISM
To be *RACIST* is to believe that one race is superior than another.
"Hobbits are stupid folk who are born with lesser brains than us Humans. They're simply born into inferiority"
To be *PREDJUDICED* (racially speaking) is to believe that a subject from one race is more likely to exhibit certain behaviors than another.
"You're friends with a Hobbit?!? Ha, all they do is waste their time smoking Shire weed and stealing fireworks."
Racism is about differences based on genetic inheritence per a particular race.
Predjudice is a judgement on BEHAVIOR of a subject, based on their race (or whatever the case may be).
Perhaps you feel his message contained a 'racial slur'.
I'm not qualified to give an English lesson, but since the opportunity is here, I'm gonna take it.
Do *NOT* use the word 'racist' unless it really fits.
EVER.
It hurts black people to hear the 'N' word.
It hurts women to hear the word 'Bitch'.
It hurts people who treat others fairly to hear the word 'Racist'.
Now clue in, and grow up.
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I think this poster is the racist. Why just because it's a JORDAN Palm does it have to be just for African-Americans??
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RE: Oh boy, now we can look forward to the ''June Clever'' Palm -
Unsurprising that many of you didn't notice, patronising as you seem yourselves, with that lack of critical insight and that bumper-sticker discourse.
RE: Oh boy, now we can look forward to the ''June Clever'' Palm -
Where is the 5-series?
Surely they intend to put an ARM chip in some future 5-series model, in addition to that Oslo beast. That's a no-brainer.
If Todd Bradley is thinking about leaving that chassis out of the ARM race, somebody should give him Nero's violin.
But surely he's not a fool.
RE: Where is the 5-series?
RE: Where is the 5-series?
Eagles may soar but at least weasles don't get sucked into jet engines.
RE: Where is the 5-series?
Guestimates based on recent leaked photo's were off-base... particularly in relation to thickness. :-)
RE: Where is the 5-series?
P.S. If you've held one and/or measured one then you may want to give some more concrete evidence to ack up your claim of excellent form factor.
Thickness = over-rated
Ever tried to fit that fancy-pants new Toshiba in your pocket? It's HUGE, because it's too long, and too tall. Yet it's as thin as a 505.
My Nokia fits in pocket MUCH more comfortably than my m505, even though it's almost twice as thick.
It's simple: the phone is both shorter, and narrower.
If the specs were right, the Oslo will still be the smallest Palm-made PDA in history. Period. My lord, it 4 inches tall. That's shorter that a freakin' Treo!!
If Palm can make a plastic unit that is as powerful as the Oslo fit in a plastic shell like the Oslo's, then they certainly will find a way to squeeze it into an aluminum case. There is SOOOO much wasted space with plastic units (from a design perspective....you folks seem to care about 1/8ths of an inch here)
Aluminum isn't used because it's light.....it's used because it can be less than half as thick as plastic, and still as strong.
RE: Where is the 5-series?
RE: Where is the 5-series?
I think that there are merits with both approaches. I, myself, would probably prefer a smaller, yet thicker device because it would be easier to stick in my pocket.
Scott
Lets have the guys at Handera design it. ROFL
RE: Where is the 5-series?
Let's get it right people!!
RE: Where is the 5-series?
Lets get it right people.
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Odds of ever affording a palm without resorting to crime: 1765:1
RE: Where is the 5-series?
LOL!! Let's hear it for Weenie Power!
Haven't I been telling you I should be CEO of Palm, Inc?
Look at my 5/30/02 comment of the article: "Palm Inc. Announces Lower Q4 Revenue Outlook Posted by: Ryan on Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:49:06 PM"
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If I were in charge I'd flush the whole "m*.*" series down the toilet, hire new designers and produce killer handhelds in the following categories:
-entry level organizer (first time)
-power user (high end)
-smartphone (wireless)
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The stuff in parenthesis I added so you can see the similarities of the current vision with the vision I created last May!! :-) Now, if they would just read the rest of my old message to give themselves further direction:
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I'd co-produce a GPS-palm with garmin. Click on a name in the address book, and receive voice prompts through a hi-volume speaker.
Many people over 40 can't see very well. I'd produce a mini-tablet sized palm for the geritol set with windows software to print greeting cards from within the Palm desktop.
For younger croud I'd produce a water proof shock resistant sports palm with AM/FM radio and hi-volume speaker.
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Palm, let me know when you're ready to hire me!
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David
RE: Haven't I been telling you I should be CEO of Palm, Inc?
So you are not a genius, and if you are because of your simple statement, then I've been a genius for YEARS!
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The Ten Commandments as beamed onto Moses' Pilot 1000:
1) Thou shall not worship any other OS besides God's OS (aka Palm OS).
2-10) Thou shall not use Pocket PC.
RE: Haven't I been telling you I should be CEO of Palm, Inc?
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All:NORM!
Woody:What's up Mr. Peterson?
Norm:The warranty on my liver!
RE: Haven't I been telling you I should be CEO of Palm, Inc?
ham,(ham radio operator,N4WSH). bug, (I have a restored 66 VW Bug) = hambug :-)
RE: Wireless Product
Haven't you read the news about Palm on this site or any other site anytime for the past year? Sony is gaining marketshare, yet Palm still leads by a large margin. This industry is tough to remain profitable off pdas alone, yet Palm remained in the black for most quarters.
And yes, I actually have taken a business course up at my community college last summer as well as two business courses last year and an accounting course. I'm also planning to take another business law class this upcoming year, so don't think you can try and outsmart me at one of my future majors in college.
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The Ten Commandments as beamed onto Moses' Pilot 1000:
1) Thou shall not worship any other OS besides God's OS (aka Palm OS).
2-10) Thou shall not use Pocket PC.
Good to go for low end
Don't write off the East Asian markets. Apparently China has the fastest growing PDA market in the world, and a localized $99 machine may yet find its niche there.
Stevie
RE: Good to go for low end
And support?
They have a product aimed to wireless people and don't even have the capability to support it. Now they want more?
Yeah, right.
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Will there be a cheap lower model of the OS 5?
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