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RE: Looks good from a Launcher III perspective
I especially like the option of no text under the icons. (This is done by making the canvas and text the same color) Who needs the names? We all know what our applications are! And this way you can get four rows of icons showing.
One thing that bothered me was that the tabs with "icons only" are too small. I prefer no names, just icons so I named the tab with five blanks spaces and chose the "both" option to have both the icon and name appear. Now I have a nice size tab with only an icon. If you only have five or so tabs you may as well use the extra apace with bigger tabs. In fact you can arrange them in a way that all your tabs will utilize all the available space by reducing or increasing the amount of blank spaces you put in the name field!
Maybe for Palms, but not for the NR70
RE: Maybe for Palms, but not for the NR70
RE: Maybe for Palms, but not for the NR70
RE: Maybe for Palms, but not for the NR70
RE: Maybe for Palms, but not for the NR70
YiShow has the advantage with it's built in file browser, photo app. (slideshow feature), and document reader. I prefer YiShow on the Clie models and LauncherX for the TT. It also has the ability to use wallpapers.
Note: Since a large amount of OS5 apps (built-in and 3rd Party) don't use transparent backgrounds, the wallpaper and color backgrounds of both launchers are worthless (IMHO). Unless you like looking at a nice wallpaper or a colored tab window with icons surrouned by a white square! A hack like AppIcon is needed to take full advantage of skins/colors.
I think the lines will blur a little more with time as both launchers are work in progress.
RE: Maybe for Palms, but not for the NR70
The shortcut is handy, particularly, when you want to transfer a program to the card that has a hotsync conduit. Usually, such an app must stay in internal RAM to sync but with the small shortcut file in RAM and the actual program on the card the conduit is fooled into thinking that the program is in RAM and the program syncs as usual. The only other program that I am aware of that creates similar shortcuts is PowerRun, however, the shortcut is not recognized by the conduit to allow sync (at least the last time I tried PowerRun).
Yet another tool to use in moving files to external storage.
In the Spirit of Umoja,
Ronin
RE: Maybe for Palms, but not for the NR70
RE: Maybe for Palms, but not for the NR70
RE: Maybe for Palms, but not for the NR70
I know for sure that LX and YiShow both let you make shortcuts. I am pretty sure that ZLauncher also works this way. I can't remember about MegaLauncher and Silver Screen though.
It is a great feature indeed. But I just want to make sure that every knows that LIII is not the only launcher that can do this.
It's "Ocell" for short.
Slower than I had hoped
RE: Slower than I had hoped
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And MORE...
RE: And MORE...
Dave
RE: And MORE...
You can still have the Always Start Here feature you're used to using. Go to "Edit Category List" then choose from the tab list for "Always Start In".
I'm still using LIII v2.2 on my Treo 180g. I'll surely register LauncherX when I get a color Palm (Tungsten-T v2.0 with OSv6 - maybe mid '03?).
Best,
Mead
RE: And MORE...
Now I'm simply ecstatic.
RE: Homer?
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I've heard information about a 'Homer' function. What is it?
"Homer" is a feature that will be implemented in a future Launcher X release. When complete, it will allow quick launching into your most frequently used apps from within any application.
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Speaking for myself, this isn't a big deal -- I have McPhling, which is excellent, and sounds as if it's pretty much matches Homer's functionality (though there's very little detail about what the latter actually is.)
If I were B. Benc, I'd look into licensing McPhling to ship with Launcher X under the name of Homer. It's a rock-solid hack. (But, come to think of it, I imagine it won't work under Palm OS 5.0).
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RE: Homer?
RE: Homer?
RE: Homer?
RE: Homer?
RE: Homer?
RE: Homer?
RE: Homer?
RE: TT D-pad
RE: TT D-pad
My only problem is that I paid for the upgrade this morning and they still have not sent the upgrade key.
categories (copy/move)
RE: categories (copy/move)
Scott
HandEra Moderator
Off-Topic Moderator
I'm trying to be PC, I really am, but I'm just too into handhelds.
RE: categories (copy/move)
owned: Pilot 5000, PalmPilot Pro, Palm V, IIIc, m505, Sony T615, TUNGSTEN T!!
RE: categories (copy/move)
Cheers!
N473
Looks good but...
T
RE: Looks good but...
RE: Looks good but...
RE: Looks good but...
Add to that its on/off compatibility and frequent error messages and I can only wonder how it got to the market.
I'd rate LauncherX so far at 9 out of 10.
Silverscreen gets a .5 out of 10, for the effort.
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Mark A. Brinkman aka Omnitron
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RE: Looks good but...
RE: Looks good but...
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its..uh..ok
RE: its..uh..ok
Well, sorry to get so long winded...I'll stick with MegaLauncher for now.
Time flies like an arrow...
Fruit Flies like a banana.
RE: its..uh..ok
RE: its..uh..ok
RE: its..uh..ok
Icon only tabs
eminently skinnable
RE: eminently skinnable
"Never offend people with style when you can offend them with substance." - Sam Brown
RE: eminently skinnable
RE: eminently skinnable
I have LaunchEm and right now, using my M505, I don't see any compelling reason to switch to Launcher X. The skinnability doesn't matter to me at all and I use McFile for my file management tool and it works great.
However, when I purchase the Tungsten (in a few months when the price goes down and all the programs that I use are updated to work with it), I will seriously consider this launcher, unless LaunchEm is updated to support the Tungsten within the next couple of months. HAHAHAHAHAHAH!! Sorry, I don't know what I was thinking.
Different Screenshots!
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RE: Different Screenshots!
I have also two screenshots of Launcher X with the Narrow and Narrow Bold fonts included in LX. I designed them for 160x160 (they are only available on low res devices). The two screenshots are here: http://www.retroglobe.com/typography/
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RE: Different Screenshots!
Scott
HandEra Moderator
Off-Topic Moderator
I'm trying to be PC, I really am, but I'm just too into handhelds.
Launcher Wars
The skinning was limited for ML, but after the festus440 FAQ, a lot of good stuff has come out.
There are not a lot of unnecessary features, so I'll stick with it for the time being.
One thing I really do like about ZLauncher, YiShow, and Launcher X, is the ability to set a wallpaper (ZL,YS), and the ability to scan multiple directories on the memory stick (LX).
In my mind, if ML had these, it would be perfect.
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Rob Hines Jr.
"I drank what?"
Socrates
PIDirect and launcherX - WHY?
Thanks,
M
RE: PIDirect and launcherX - WHY?
RE: PIDirect and launcherX - WHY?
RE: PIDirect and launcherX - WHY?
In contrast, PiDirect II copies only the header file into RAM and accesses the actual file directly from the card. This enables it to be a bit faster on the uptake than copying wholesale into RAM. It also enables the use of databases larger than available RAM, such as dictionaries and encyclopedias, among others.
Scott
HandEra Moderator
Off-Topic Moderator
I'm trying to be PC, I really am, but I'm just too into handhelds.
Stunning
2 big thumbs up!
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Power off with the back button on the Clie N760
RE: Power off with the back button on the Clie N760
Launcher wars
I tried the beta of LauncherX and didn't really like the feel of it.
Anyone? What's wrong with SilverScreen?
Ick
RE: Launcher wars
RE: Launcher wars
I understand that much change is now occuring in the industry & the same sort of things that held up LauncherX
i.e. the debut of OS5, and new hardware like Tungsten & Clie Nx made for distractions fm the amount of time that the developers have for updating the Silver Screen program for the 330, but as a registered user of S. Screen; for a number of revisions - I would've hoped my $ for registration would buy better & more timely support.
RE: Launcher wars
As far as "big" is concerned, again I haven't really noticed that it takes up more space than I care about. Synching with my Lotus Notes, however is an entirely different story.
I guess it's what you get used to. I've seen that some launchers add significant value (easier access to apps on card, quicklaunch butons, etc) but none that I feel are so necessary that I'm willing to spend $20-$25 on them. I just wanted some opinions on SilverScreen, as it was one of the only major players in the launcher space that no one seemed to be mentioning.
Thanks for the info...
Ick
RE: Launcher wars
RE: Launcher wars
I´m using Silverscreen on a m105, and since I don´t have an SD slot nor something, I´m not sure on what other features those other launchers can offer over SS
I really want something that looks good and functionally speaking the toolbar on SS has proven ok at this moment, but maybe you can tell me something to justify an upgrade -software and hardware!-
RE: Launcher wars
On the SilverScreen side, the SS toolbar is more professional looking, there are user-definable hotspots, the toolbar can be swapped with a tickertape or tabs (double row!)or FireViewer pics, there is already a collection of themes, and the stability seems better as does the speed.
The manual icon cache refresh in LX is a good idea to avoid scanning the card everytime you exit an app. However, this may leave icons for deleted apps behind at times, and you will not newly installed apps until a manual refresh is done.
The SS method is to cache the icons and not perform a refresh unless exiting an app which can add, move, or delete files which makes more sense in my opinion. Works well most of the time, but the rescan delay after a hotsync (about 5 seconds) can be irritating at times.
A few things I did not like in LX is that the brightness control does not work properly on the m515, hacks show up in the menu with their own X-Master icons, and chosing a file from the card which is too big causes a fatal error. I also would like an easier way to get rid of the tabs. Nonetheless, it seems like a good product and I'll have to play with it for a few days before coming to a conclusion.
RE: Launcher wars
I'll have to hand it to whoever's behind Launcher X marketing, can anyone remember more build-up to a Palm OS release?
RE: Launcher wars
The new SilverScreen OS5 themes with hi-res icons are just gorgeous on the Tungsten. (See TinyTown, BeBop and Club Mix).
RE: Launcher wars
RE: Launcher wars
I used to have a specific problem with an app called MyBible because the files were split into so many different files it would slow everything down. I formerly had to load one translation to RAM and another to the launcher folder to balance out the memory/speed issues, as the vendor did not seem interested in giving us the whole Bible in a single file as an option to eliminate the problem. After cleaning up the launcher folder, I moved the MyBible pdb files from RAM to the card, and the now the app loads faster than it did when they were in RAM. So now I have the same apps all in the desired categories, my card is more organized, the apps launch faster, and I have more available RAM.
Ok, time to register.
RE: Launcher wars
Also, silver screen does not support the new Tungsten Jog Dial..(Has anyone heard from Pocket Sensei if they are going to resolve this issue?)
Silver screen pro (IMHO):
--use of individual tabs
--the toolbar (my favorite as it is bigger than that in launcher III or X)
--Themes (i love the club mix and the new X-mas)
Con:
--SIZE (overall the basic silverscreen down load is over 500K for hi res...compare to nearly 300 for the basic hi res LauncherX)
--missing icons
--not very customizable for background or tab
--Does not support jog dial to it's fullest extent(unless someone knows of a trick)
--duplicating software from memory card onto my palm ram. This is probably the most infuriating aspect as I (like us all) value our free space on our RAM
Silver screen is the first launcher i have purchased and I had it for nearly 2 years. If the cons keep growing I will opt for the launcherX.
but we can't be too hasty...I will have to play with launcher x a little more before making a full decesion
RE: Launcher wars
German review
RE: German review
Here's a machine translation of the first few paragraphs:
What is Launcher X?
Launcher X is a new, alternative Launcher, i.e. program starter. He is the successor of the Launcher III, which had even already many trailers. Launcher X is a program that already for a long time before its completion in October attention excited 2002.
The better Launcher?
The question is now, which is to make it at the program an allegedly so mad product. After the installation one sees a Launcher, which divides its categories in riders, as one already knows it ago from the Launcher III. Why thus the excitement? I would like to examine the program once more exactly.
Love for the detail
Launcher X is, which one notices after a longer application, very well programmed, very stably and in the detail affectionately arranged. High Density on the Tungsten/HighRes+ for Sonys and ski support belongs likewise to the standardausstattung like a complete file manager. The operation is intuitive, i.e. functions are situated exactly, where one them assumed or like one expects it from a good Launcher evenly and also knows from MegaLauncher or the Launcher III.
Ski functionality
Since the Launcher supports X Skins, thus with ensprechenden ski packages its appearance to change can, does not make here it for not much sense to describe the program surface. Again with this program it is however that Skins modify not only the appearance, but also the behavior of the program. Which should be called, I did not know first also, until I had seen a strongly changed Skin...
RE: German review
What exactly would you like to know? I could translate passages of the text for you!
Big thumbs up!
The review is right on target, and I can't praise it enough. Now, let's see what kind of skins we can come up with!!!
RE: Big thumbs up!
Sounds great - is there a skin sdk or howto available for LauncherX yet?
LauncherX
The only thing that I miss from III is the automatic cycling of day, date and time. I had mine set to change every three seconds and found it very useful.
Have I missed something or is this feature not included in X?
Is it worth the cost?
Having downloaded the new prog is it worth the cost?
Not IMHO. Nice looking it is but I could not find one feature that was extra to Launcher III.
If they fix the bug in Launcher III reported a week ago and no reply I would perhaps be a little more sympathetic.
RE: Is it worth the cost?
George
RE: Is it worth the cost?
1. High res icons and interface which supports the excellent screen on my T.
2. Support for my Tungsten T D-Pad.
3. Future support for skinning of the interface making it even prettier.
Why would you spend $500 on a "wow" factor PDA just to put some ugly old launcher in the place of a beautiful new one when it only costs about $6 more?
Reconsider...
owned: Pilot 5000, PalmPilot Pro, Palm V, IIIc, m505, Sony T615, TUNGSTEN T!!
Launcher X - poor response from company
The software seems to be cool looking but, in my opinion, the poor response from the company tells me that my $25 may have been poorly spent. .... JOE
RE: Launcher X - poor response from company
Unacceptable customer support
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Looks good from a Launcher III perspective
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