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RE: Awesome news!! I can't wait to get this new Treo!
The SkyTraveler
RE: Awesome news!! I can't wait to get this new Treo!
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/3659.html
Not sure what the funny sticky out thing at the top is -- my SE T610 doesn't have one (and neither does the P800)!
FBN
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RE: Awesome news!! I can't wait to get this new Treo!
The 600s screen looks pretty small in that photo - why do you think the SGH-i500 is smaller?
Um. Bluetooth?
RE: Um. Bluetooth?
Handspring Marketing: Here is the Treo 600!
Customer: Where is Bluetooth connection?
Handspring Marketing: Hmmmm ... there is the Palm SDIO Bluetooth card
Handspring Engineering: Dammit! Why did you say that?? We didn't do the Bluetooth drivers yet!!
Handspring Marketing: Well we need it.
Handspring Engineering: You didn't say that six months ago when you wanted us to put in support for the camera over Bluetooth.
Handspring Marketing: Well we need it now since the customers say so.
Handspring Engineering:
Customer: Hmmm ... what other smartphones have Bluetooth?
Handspring Management: Are we still cool?
RE: Um. Bluetooth?
How about the SE P800, Nokia 3650 etc?...
Anyway, it's still not determined whether the Treo 600 will have integrated BT. My gut tells me probably not though...
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RE: Um. Bluetooth?
RE: Um. Bluetooth?
RE: Um. Bluetooth?
RE: Um. Bluetooth?
Uh let's see:
1. Bluetooth would allow you to connect your laptop to the Internet through your phone.
2. Bluetooth would allow you to connect to printers from your phone.
3. Bluetooth would allow you to access the Internet wirelessly without using some kind of service plan and/or indoors where phone service is crappy, plus at higher bitrates.
4. Share stuff wirelessly with your friend's Bluetooth PDA, phone, etc.
Come one people! Bluetooth is exactly the thing that would make a Palm OS phone more than just a phone.
RE: Um. Bluetooth?
Zire71 purchase
I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. We're in space.
RE: Zire71 purchase
#insert
RE: Zire71 purchase
I'm with you on that. If my phone dies, I can stick a couple of quarters in a payphone and get by. If my Palm dies, I would have to adjust my my workstyle, drag around a laptop, etc...
Bringing hamsters to a dogfight....
What are you talking about?
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-Pablo Picasso.
RE: Bringing hamsters to a dogfight....
RE: Bringing hamsters to a dogfight....
RE: Bringing hamsters to a dogfight....
WRONG AGAIN!! Please tell me what other 3 or 4 PalmOS 5.x smartphones have been announced?!! Like I said before, the ONLY other os 5.x smartphone on the horizon besides the Treo 600 is the SGH-i500 period! Every other device known of like the Kyocera 7135, Samsung SPH-i330, Tungsten W, GSPDA Zircon, GSPDA Onynx, and etc are all OS 4.1 or earlier! The only exception is the Weblink H500 which uses the Huntec Relfex technology and thus is not capable of voice (thus nullifying it). Try to get your facts straight!
Secondly, Handspring no longer sells its products directly to consumers! Its success will be predicated upon the relationship it has developed with various cellular providers. So far it has become a Tier 1 level partner with SprintPCS and Orange and will maintain at least a Tier 2 level partnership with T-mobile AFAIK! Thus the pricing, extent of susidization, and sale of these Treos will be determined NOT by Handspring but by the cellular providers themselves. Ultimately, the success of these products won't depend soley upon the lowest price but on which providers will support which smartphones, which will work best with which network, which can generate the best new revenue streams, and etc...
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"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."
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Out on a limb
RE: Bringing hamsters to a dogfight....
Well, you got me again. :) Let me express my point in more general terms. I don't believe that the typical (non PIC) consumer differentiates beyond PPC phone and Palm OS phone. Before long there will be so many Palm OS phones out there that HS will get lost in the background noise. Barely another face in the crowd.
RE: Bringing hamsters to a dogfight....
RE: Bringing hamsters to a dogfight....
RE: Bringing hamsters to a dogfight....
if you look at my post above (which says this) you'll notice it was posted before yesterdays announcement. But yr right - that throws that idea completely out the window.
Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
"Cameras" = more than one camera. Plural.
"Camera's" = something belonging to the camera. Possesive.
For f's sake, I wish people would figure this out, or go back to 4th grade.
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
In fact it matters GREATLY, IMO. Writing is a form of communication and misuse of punctuation can confuse matters to no end.
i.e its vs. it's
its = possessive
it's = it is
For example: "it's". It's used incorrectly constantly on this site and it's nuts! Its use must be learned correctly! :)
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
> i.e its vs. it's
Should be ...
i.e. its vs. it's
Does posting on the internet spell the death of the English language as it is (it's) written?
Possibly ... but blame Gutenberg - he put printed media within reach of the common man. It has been a downhill slide since then 8^)
~ "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed." - DV ~
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
:)
For example: "it's."
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
> communication and misuse of punctuation can confuse
> matters to no end.
>
> i.e its vs. it's
>
> its = possessive
> it's = it is
Dust up your language before insulting others. Writing is a form of communication, and *its* misuse can confuse matters to no end.
e.g i.e. vs. e.g
i.e = "which means"
e.g = "for example"
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
They are enforced by those with power, with violence, on those who have none.
Unless you care to outnarrate me?
Edward Green
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http://www.khite.co.uk
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
Palmmongrel, I wish you would figure out that including the second comma in the above sentence (between the words "out" and "or") is grammatically incorrect. Back in the 4th grade, I learned that this sort of punctuation mistake is called a comma splice (a GRIEVOUS SIN that all good writers loathe to commit).
Let he who has never made a punctuation error in a post cast the first stone. :)
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
Thanks, robrecht
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
e.g i.e. vs. e.g
i.e = "which means"
e.g = "for example"
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I sit here at my desk corrected! Thanks for pointing that out. Oops on my part. Cheers. :)
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
Thanks, robrecht
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
> e.g = "for example"
I was tought that i.e. (with the trailing period ^_^) means "as in."
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
> e.g = "for example"
I was tought that i.e. (with the trailing period ^_^) means "as in."
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
On the Zire71, the camera is great. The resolution is MORE than enough for webcam shots, the clarity and brightness work well, and in time I'll be able to snap something and send it wirelessly to a friend. In that same vein I could just use an SD-enabled camera, but it doesn't have that cool sliding factor.
It is all about the cool.
I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. We're in space.
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
RE: Jeez.. ANOTHER camera...
Are that okay you's grammer and speling police with? ^^
Jim
RE: http:// ???
RE: http:// ???
Is there a single database app which is treo aware such that when cursor is in a field of integer/real it will default to numbers so one doesn't have to CONSTANTLY double tap the blue button to enter numerical data?
Will it have a voice recorder, mp3 player?
What mhz ARM? 166 is old news, I want the 400 mhz tungten C (not W, i mean C) and I may not wait for an OS5 smartphone.
Any independant verification of sunlight viewing? When walking my dog, reading the treo screen is impossible, whereas I used to enjoy reading avantgo on a Palm IIIe while in the sunlight.
Would it be presumptuous to assume that it will have a 320x320 screen?
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David
RE: http:// ???
http://discussion.treocentral.com/tcforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=222175#post222175
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"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."
-Pablo Picasso.
RE: http:// ???
> that it will have a 320x320 screen?
according to the Treocentral postings and sketch, it's "160*160 brighter pixels closer togehter because of slightly smaller screen size trust me it looks good"
Yv
Yv
RE: http:// ???
I too would have presumed that an OS5 device in 2003 would be 320x320, but reports are that it is 160x160.
Thanks, robrecht
RE: http:// ???
in palms home page there is a pic of Jeff Hawkins, which device is he holding ?
RE: http:// ???
in palms home page there is a pic of Jeff Hawkins, which device is he holding ?
That looks like a Tungsten T to me.
Hmmm... I just enlarged it. Now I'm not so sure. What IS that?!
RE: http:// ???
http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/229-1.htm
-- doesn't look like the sketches, is what I say. But the sketches are probably wrong.
RE: http:// ???
Thanks, robrecht
Jeff and the pic
RE: http:// ???
RE: http:// ???
http://prn.newscom.com/cgi-bin/members/thumb/wmark?doc=PRN/prnphotos/docs/033/285&size=512
New Treo picture -- large!
RE: http:// ???
Palm Announces Acquisition of Handspring to Bolster Industr
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With great power comes great responsiblity.
They will be welcomed with bullets and shoes!
http://palminfocenter.com/print.asp?ID=4641
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Opinion: Mike Cane's 2003 Palm OS Predictions
Posted by: Ryan on Monday, December 30, 2002 10:52:04
AM
1) Palm SG Acquires Handspring
HandEra disappearing from the shelves is one thing. To
have the sequel company of Palm Computing founder Jeff
Hawkins go under is just catastrophic PR. The merger
will be papered over with Hawkins wanting to retire to
do brain research and the Big Lie that Palm SG will
gain knowledge and experience from Handspring's
Communicator efforts. Palm SG will continue to use the
Handspring name as a brand for wireless devices. (And,
no, they will not bring back the Springboard -- get
over it!) The acquisition will be a stock swap with no
cash changing hands.
RE: Palm Announces Acquisition of Handspring to Bolster Industr
Thanks, robrecht
RE: Palm Announces Acquisition of Handspring to Bolster Industr
Palm Handspring conference call
http://ir.palm.com/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=PALM&script=1010&item_id=751953
RE: Palm to Buy Handspring in Stock Swap!!!!
We're already onto next year's lead Prediction:
1) Sony Buys PalmSpring
Please please please make it a tri-band GSM/GPRS
The treo 270 was in two flavors: 900 + 1900 or 1800 + 1900. So I had to cart around two of the babies, depending on where in India or the world I was travelling. Counter-syncing and all. Humongous pain.
Go on, please please pretty please make it Tri-band (and no - the rest of the world doesn't care about CDMA - I mean 800 + 1800 + 1900). And, of course, get a good GPRS radio into it - learn from the guys in the next cube who did the Tungsten W.
And for heck's sake - please DON'T lock it to a carrier. Sell unlocked models - that's the way the rest of the world works.
Good luck till then!
RE: Please please please make it a tri-band GSM/GPRS
on most european networks (irish, english, french at least) you buy a handset and its locked to the network. they lock to the network quite often for the duration of your minimum contract in return for the subsidy they give you.
the word on the street about handspring was that they were targetting networks instead of consumers - this way we consumers get cheap treos!
-kev
RE: Please please please make it a tri-band GSM/GPRS
In India - also in Hong Kong, China and many other countries, the phone is sold completely separate from the service. The phone is 'unlocked' - meaning if you shift from carrier A to carrier B, or even just want to lend your phone to a friend, you simply pop out the SIM card, and pop in another, and you're on.
It doesn't necessarily increase the price of the phone: it simply frees you - you decide on the right handset for you from a range of manufacturers and models - upgrade the phone at whatever time during the contract, using the same SIM card, and you're not affected at all. Today you can get handsets from $80 all the way up to $600 - it's your choice - all this without being subsidised by any carrier and forced into marriage with them.
This practice of 'locking' is heinous. I can see how it forces you to stick with one carrier and one phone for the duration of the contract.
I really hope it doesn't become standard operating procedure the world over.
Treo 600 - really!
handspring sneek peak of the treo 600
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Awesome news!! I can't wait to get this new Treo!
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