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Matias Duarte google android palm tyrell Matias Duarte, Palm's VP of Human Interface and User Experience, has left the company according to a digital daily report this morning. Originally hired in Sept '07, Mr. Duarte was one of the leads on the webOS project and was responsible for much of the overall design and user interface. Readers may remember him from the initial unveiling of webOS at CES in Jan 2009.

Reports have now been confirmed that Duarte is taking a new spot at Google, where he will become the new User Experience Director for Android.

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Let loose the dogs of war!

mikecane @ 5/27/2010 10:51:26 AM #
Well, he did keen stuff in terms of Cards and Notifications, but from what I've seen, the core PIM apps themselves lack the Haitani Zen of Palm -- which was a HUGE frikkin mistake and helped contribute to the Pre's lack of traction and the requirement of Classic. And it was so freakin stupid of him not to incorporate the Haitani design -- FFS, wasn't that *Palm's* IP? They differentiated the PIMs during OS 5.0, to make them Palm IP (remember that back then the agreement was that licensees would "share" -- but those PIM changes were Palm's, not PalmSource's, property).

Well, it's good for Android, I suppose. Although it will wreak havoc when HTC phone users find out they get Sense instead of the Cool Duarte stuff, for example. Good luck to him all the same.

RE: Let loose the dogs of war!
richf @ 5/27/2010 12:44:22 PM #
What's the real story here? I've worked at three businesses that were sold. Two of them tried to lockin the current employees the week it was made public. The third didn't and went out of business about ten months later after a panic manager swinging door attempt to stay alive. I have a lot of hope on this deal, but I have serious doubts about letting this guy get away. Anybody know who HP has that is his equal stashed away just waiting to jump into his chair. Here's hoping HP doesn't junk up webos.
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RE: Let loose the dogs of war!
mikecane @ 5/27/2010 4:50:20 PM #
Eh. Maybe they already made a move to rehire Haitani. Who knows? Duarte could have been pushed out. HP's Touchsmart PC software is OK for what it is, lipstick on a Windows pig. Maybe they have touch UI guys who have been begging for a chance like this. Could be anything. Hell, HP even once showed a prototype eBook device that had touchstrips (primitive Gesture Areas) on the bezel.
RE: Let loose the dogs of war!
hkklife @ 5/29/2010 9:52:20 AM #
I see this as more of a gain for Google/Android than a loss for Palm.

WebOS is better than the current crap of smartphone rubbish UI ( BB, Android, WM 6.x) but still far below the gold standard of iPhone and of course classic Palm OS. Too much wasted screen real estate in some WebOS elements and its not nearly as finger-friendly as 320x480 should/could be. Of course, Android looks like it was slapped together by a group of mentally challenged kids with ADD, so anything is an improvement. Google is ONLY about flash & eye cands over substance, so I don't expect much to change in that regard. Google continues adding nifty transitions & UI effects to the OS while doing NOTHING to improve the core PIM functionality of Android.

Duarte was probably "gone" ages ago (like Colligan was last year and Marc Blank before that) but is just making the Google relationship official now.
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RE: Let loose the dogs of war!
dougandmegan @ 6/2/2010 9:50:58 PM #
You are obviously not a WebOS user. WebOS makes the iPhone look like a play toy. There is no real comparison.
RE: Let loose the dogs of war!
hkklife @ 6/2/2010 10:47:14 PM #
I think Apple's marketshare, consumer mindshare, and (most importantly) bottom line vs. that of Palm's would suggest otherwise.

I have had many opportunities to purchase a WebOS device and I chose not to do so. We're all entitled to our own opinion and I think WebOS' UI elements are far better suited to larger screens that are higher resolution than the 320x480 (or less), 3.1" (or less) displays on Palm's current lineup.

Let me throw out the tantalizing tidbit that IMHO Garnet remains a superior OS to both WebOS AND iPhone OS as far as speed/ease of inputting & recalling info one-handed as well as the critical aspect of PIM functionality.

Any OS that lacks a full-featured document editing (not just viewing) package such as DTG cannot be taken truly seriously for power users. Dataviz's lack of faith in WebOS to date speaks volumes.
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Positive Palm news: Ben Combee returned to Palm!

Fake Jeff Hawkins @ 5/28/2010 10:58:31 PM #
Metrowerks/Palm/PalmSource legend Ben Cembee left Mozilla and returned to Palm as a webOS cheerleader + developer relations team member. One of the few bits of good news for Palm all year.

I just hope he stays on (and takes on more responsibility) when HP officially assumes ownership of Palm. Those of us who have followed Palm for a while will remember that Big Ben was one of the main cogs in the Foleo's development. If only the rest of he development team had been as talented as Ben, today we all might have been toting around Foleo IIIs instead of iPads.

The Foleo Story is a sad tale that deserves to be told in public. Someday...

FJH

All this user interface angst is B.S.

Fake Jeff Hawkins @ 5/29/2010 7:47:05 AM #
Produce webOS with a LauncherX style tabbed app launcher on HTC EVO hardware and reclaim the "Zen of Palm".

Palm has lost its way and is now run by marketing types rather than software people. THAT is the explanation for Palm's decade-long decline into oblivion. Amazing that Hawkins' original ideas (Palm Pilot and Treo) have kept the company in business for so long despite the near-criminal mismanagement that Palm has had to endure.

Brand new 128 MB Centro 2 are now available for $90 - $110 on eBay. I just picked up another one for $90. This is probably the last Palm branded device I'll ever buy, but it makes a hell of a PDA - even without activation. Turn off the cell phone radio and battery life is better than most recent Palm PDAs.

While i like the Sprint HTC EVO hardware, I think itssize may be a bit too big for me and I also don't like the disarray that the Android platform is in. I'm embarassed to realize that my next phone could be an iPhone 4G...

Google commit suicide

neuron @ 5/29/2010 9:29:14 AM #
There are so many ways to kill himself, unfortunately Google picked the most expensive way.
RE: Google commit suicide
CFreymarc @ 5/31/2010 6:26:55 PM #
Google has bank for salaries like this. Honestly, there are so many high priced "experts" at Google some say it is turning into way too many cooks to get anything done. He is just one more voice no matter what his title is IMO.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there was not much interest keeping him after the HP buyout. There are a lot of UI people at HP on a salary and consulting basis that perhaps didn't see eye to eye with him.

The real perceived gem of the HP buyout is the webOS kernel that can go into hundreds if not thousands of HP product that now have royalty payments connected to them. The User Interface, IMO is considered secondary.

has anyone tried Pocket Mirror for WebOS?

rpa @ 5/30/2010 3:24:32 AM #
Looks like an option for those of us who want to sync with Outlook running on the desktop. I'm waiting for an unlocked GSM version of a WebOS device....HP, when will we see one??
'if you see a wire - they blew it.'
Gekko @ 5/30/2010 6:34:07 AM #

i'm so over wire usb syncing. OTA sync is a beautiful thing. automagically sync everything to the cloud. no more fumbling with cables, cradles, and clumsy usb doors.
RE: has anyone tried Pocket Mirror for WebOS?
e_tellurian @ 5/30/2010 10:11:40 AM # M
What about Bluetooth? What to do in the future? Device to device transfers?

E-T

RE: has anyone tried Pocket Mirror for WebOS?
rpa @ 5/30/2010 4:16:59 PM #
Gekko: USB doubles as a way to charge the device without the need to carry an additional charger. OTA is a great way to sync but take a trip internationally and see what you get charged for roaming data connectivity.
RE: has anyone tried Pocket Mirror for WebOS?
mikecane @ 5/30/2010 5:07:52 PM #
>>>automagically sync everything to the cloud

Awaiting the day when The Cloud goes POOF! and automagically sends all of Gekko's Cloud-only-synced data to Electron Hell.

Probably sooner than that, The Cloud will develop the vapors and Gekko will go temporarily (more) insane when he can't get to what he's socked away in The Cloud.
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RE: has anyone tried Pocket Mirror for WebOS?
Gekko @ 5/30/2010 5:41:51 PM #

http://www.rerware.com/MyBackup/default.aspx


RE: has anyone tried Pocket Mirror for WebOS?
mikecane @ 5/31/2010 9:20:17 AM #
Yeah, and then once you've backed up to the SD card, what do you do? Plug it into a slot which uses WIRES. Paradigm FAIL.
RE: has anyone tried Pocket Mirror for WebOS?
abosco @ 6/2/2010 10:14:56 AM # M
T-Mobile Sidekick users lost all their data last year when the cloud went poof.
RE: has anyone tried Pocket Mirror for WebOS?
Gekko @ 6/2/2010 12:05:56 PM #

that's what auto scheduled backups layered with checkpoints to the microSD card are for.


The Pioneer helps build more

e_tellurian @ 5/30/2010 10:04:10 AM # M
Yet another Palm asset has left to enhance the industry. A compliment to Palm and a blessing for google.

E-T

off topic oil spill

e_tellurian @ 5/30/2010 10:31:31 AM # M
Any ideas on how to resolve this issue? What are your thoughts on asking BP employees to use their holiday time to help clean up the oil?

E-T

RE: off topic oil spill
e_tellurian @ 5/30/2010 3:10:46 PM # M
Some have suggested manufacturing a large bladder made from recycled tires to contain the oil. This bladder could enable many ships to siphon oil from the bladder. What are your thoughts?

E-T

RE: off topic oil spill
e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 3:31:55 PM # M
It seems that BP did not offer vapor masks to all the fishermen. Now some have become ill. When one thinks about the people does one automatically take care of any liability?

E_T

Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope

Gekko @ 5/31/2010 5:33:30 AM #

http://www.mondaynote.com/2010/05/30/ballmer-just-opened-the-second-envelope/

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
mikecane @ 5/31/2010 9:26:06 AM #
Even better, so far the tablets from Computex are all craptastic Win 7-based. Ballmer must have spread a ton of payola around to woo Asus and MSI away from using Android as the platform. They must be very, very happy over at HP with webOS.
RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 5/31/2010 10:30:47 AM # M
We-com virtual wallets will create a new industry. To stay independent will require an open market that can spend money on new innovation too. Is the open market funding innovation? Is it time for a new industry that can help pay for more choices?

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 5/31/2010 10:46:56 AM # M
North American and European debt is held by China. Who do you work for? Is it time to innovate out of debt?

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
mikecane @ 5/31/2010 4:42:49 PM #
Hey, you psychotic son of a bitch. I TOLD YOU TO STAY OUT OF MY THREADS!
RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
CFreymarc @ 5/31/2010 6:34:10 PM #
Honestly, this is nothing but a scape goat reorganization and house cleaning in my opinion. Microsoft has been going crazy fixing the Vista screw up by actually optimizing code instead of piling more on as they have during their company history. This totally broadsided Microsoft's engineer culture.

Many told me that Mobile Division was constantly loosing talent to the desktop groups to get Windows 7 finished and out. This reorganization and house cleaning is like getting rid of a Fire Lieutenant cause the house he was rescuing burned down cause the Fire Chief was taking all of his water away.

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
gmayhak @ 5/31/2010 7:54:12 PM #
>>>> Hey, you psychotic son of a bitch. I TOLD YOU TO STAY OUT OF MY THREADS!

It's Gekko's thread Mike ;-)

E-T, I gave you a contact where you could actually do something with your life besides hanging out here pissing off people.

Everyone already has a virtual wallet!... Confinity Inc. is best known as the creator of PayPal. It was founded in December 1998 by Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, and Luke Nosek, initially as a Palm Pilot payments and cryptography company. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confinity

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RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 5/31/2010 8:25:35 PM # M
:-(lol)

There is no we-com virtual wallet. There are interfaces not an actual wallet. I can not use digital currency made by artisans of currency. I can show you digital currency it is not legal tender... Yet.

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 5/31/2010 10:07:20 PM # M
Was the Internet built on credit? Some do not want credit they have cash. Some people want to use cash too. It seems that a trillion dollars was stolen by cyber thieves. Our taxes pay for such losses. It's called business write offs. Are we too indebted? Is it time for real digital currency?

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
richf @ 6/1/2010 6:12:36 AM #
e, please start your own thread and converse with yourself all day. I get tired of this e wallet shit. I find PayPal to be quite satisfactory, myself.
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RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
mikecane @ 6/1/2010 6:28:24 AM #
>>>It's Gekko's thread Mike ;-)

Once I put a reply in a thread, it becomes MINE. I'm sick of this demented bastard ruining thread after thread with his running psychosis. One lunatic just went away. He should have taken this other one with him.

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/1/2010 7:45:47 AM # M
It is nice to have choices. Freedom of speech offers many choices some want to use real cash too in the digital world we live in. My choices do not affect your choices.

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/1/2010 7:58:13 AM # M
Should people have the right to choose debit(e-cheques) and e-credit as well as e-cash?

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/1/2010 8:10:43 AM # M
A trillion dollars lost to cyber theft. How will we pay for such losses? Some cash would be nice. A we-com virtual wallet can interact with all forms of digital transactions including cash.

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/1/2010 8:33:38 AM # M
Out of 195 countries i wonder how many are working on e-cash?

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
Gekko @ 6/1/2010 9:04:42 AM # M
news flash - HP cutting 9,000 jobs over multi-years. I wonder how this will affect Palm?
RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/1/2010 12:21:55 PM # M
It is hoped that there will be employment for those seeking work. We need some innovative ideas to help create such employment.

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/1/2010 5:59:33 PM # M
Virtual currency will need to be developed with 195 governments.

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/1/2010 6:14:09 PM # M
9000 ÷ 195 = 46 per country working on developing virtual currency. We do have the resources.

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/1/2010 6:15:07 PM # M
9000 ÷ 195 = 46 per country working on developing virtual currency. We do have the resources.

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
Gekko @ 6/2/2010 3:25:05 AM #

it's like a self-replicating virus. a scourge on humanity.


RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 11:20:51 AM # M
Such is unemployment. What to so?

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 11:40:13 AM # M
What to do?

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 11:46:54 AM # M
We could build a we-com industry. Such an industey will require innovative minds and capital that value such thought.

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
Gekko @ 6/2/2010 12:07:27 PM #

it's like a parasite that attaches itself to its host and replicates and sucks it dry eventually killing it.

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 12:12:59 PM # M
We can do something about unemployment ... We can innovate. We have that freedom. War is not a profitable business it is a consequence not a choice. The war will be over in 2011 then we will have our entire crew home and can finish building a we-com industry.

E-T

RE: Ballmer just opened the Second Envelope
e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 12:57:28 PM # M
http://www.timescolonist.com/mobile/technology/top-stories/Hewlett+Packard+jobs/3097496/story.html

E-T

Get them while their hot

richf @ 6/2/2010 7:52:12 AM #
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RE: Get them while their hot
Gekko @ 6/2/2010 8:29:51 AM # M
yes i'll take two buggy whips, a blank 8 track tape, a typewriter ribbon, and a stylus 3-pack please.
RE: Get them while their hot
richf @ 6/2/2010 8:59:11 AM #
You're funny. I meant this for the loyal users of the centro.
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RE: Get them while their hot
mikecane @ 6/2/2010 11:44:48 AM #
>>>yes i'll take two buggy whips, a blank 8 track tape, a typewriter ribbon, and a stylus 3-pack please.

I knew you were one of those crazed hoarders. Will we see your cardboard box home on TV some day in one of those Oprah specials? LMAO!!!

When do you get the Evo? I don't want to miss you braying about it -- especially with AT&T capping data on the new iPhone today! Looks like a Sprint MiFi might be in my future thanks to AT&T. But probably not until October, when 4G lights up NYC and the MiFi is unlimited data (3G is 5GB cap -- bah!).

RE: Get them while their hot
Gekko @ 6/2/2010 11:59:59 AM #

1. i'm a minimalist. less is more. i hate clutter and waste and junk. if i don't use it i give it away or throw it out.

http://zenhabits.net/a-guide-to-creating-a-minimalist-home/

2. i get the EVO first thing in the morning this Fri June 4. i'll try to do a quick post here updating my first impressions. all of my Contacts and Calendar events are already on The Google courtesy of nuevasync.com and i'm already using Gmail as my primary email and all of my files are sitting out there on the Cloud synced via FTP so i am good to go and ready to automagically migrate to the EVO at the press of a button.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM974OQJ5L8

RE: Get them while their hot
hkklife @ 6/2/2010 12:35:26 PM #
So Mike, you didn't get the 4G iPad? AT&T's announcement today is HORRIBLE!

It's designed to pull in the soccer mom/MILFs with "value" pricing that's superficially more attractive but will ultimately clobber you for any major data overages. AT&T reminds me of Palm circa 2007-2009 in how they are desperately trying to shun all of their data-intensive power users.

I just checked my Verizon usage and I've already used ~1.8Gb this billing cycle on my Droid and that's with VERY little YouTube streaming, no Skype, no tethering/DUN, not that much Pandora streaming and no online gaming or anything. I could easily forsee myself doubling that while traveling (those downloaded maps consume more data than you think), with a better device (ala Evo), or with a bigger battery. Basically i've blown the 2GB data cap from just regular web/email/navigation and a bit of music streaming. Android (and presumably any other cloud-centric OS such as WebOS) uses a LOT of bandwidth for its little widgets and background updates etc. Android-based devices are never gonna fly for pay-as-you-go data usage models. They'd be ideal for something like the relaunched Virgin plans where you get very few voice minutes but unlimited, uncapped data.

I'd have thought AT&T would at least have waited until next year or a larger HSPA+ rollout or a new calendar year or something. AT&T arrogantly thinks that people are going to be so nuts over the new iPhone that they will pay ANYTHING for the privelage of it. And the iPad 3G just became a LOT less attractive than it already is with this shitty new "deal". At the very least I'd like to see a Verizon version of the iPad for users who will consume a large amount of data.

Geeko is right--Sprint's honestly looking like a better and better deal with each passing day, even with the extra few charges on the Evo (for WiMax, tethering & premium video chat if you want it). Regardless, I am going to see what happens with the Moto Shadow & Droid 2 before I make my next move. But one this completely clear: I'll NEVER go to AT&T now for ANY device!

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RE: Get them while their hot
hkklife @ 6/2/2010 12:36:35 PM #
Edit: 3G iPad!

Gekko's (and all the various Android sites') eagerness have me going Evo 4G crazy with the pending launch!
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RE: Get them while their hot
Gekko @ 6/2/2010 12:42:20 PM #

get away from those Motocrapola products. HTC is where it's at.


RE: Get them while their hot
hkklife @ 6/2/2010 2:33:13 PM #
The Evo looks very, very good and is arguably the best smartphone in the world right now. But the HTC Incredible has a few issues regarding both reception & build quality. I'm generally been impressed with Moto hardware over the years....at least as far as their higher-end CDMA handsets are concerned.

What I REALLY want to see is HTC (or anyone else) to somehow pack a physical keyboard, Android, and a 4" screen into a decently performing Android device. I am not as hung up on thinness as others. When you carried 2 devices for so long like i did (and put up with Tungsten C, LifeDrive and Treo 700p bricks), you learn to not be particularly picky.


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RE: Get them while their hot
Gekko @ 6/2/2010 2:50:39 PM #

5 years ago i implored you to stop fumbling with two devices and let go of the PDA and switch to a smartphone.

1 year ago i implored you to let go of USB cable desktop sync and join the Cloud.

today i implore you to let go of the physical keyboard and switch to a good large capacitive on screen keyboard like HTC's.

i know you hillbillies in the South are a little behind but come on!

RE: Get them while their hot
e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 7:26:59 PM #
There is a need for two devices if you want a we-com virtual wallet. There is benefit to having two. Everything in one is not logical, functional or secure for some applications. Having one is caused by economics to have two does cost more hence the reason we need good paying jobs.

With two one will never get lost ... that saves money. Though it does cost more to have two than having one initially. In the long term it will save money as one can never get lost.

E-T
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off topic we-com virtual wallet

e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 3:50:31 PM # M
Does anyone have more thoughts to add to this innovative offering? The development of virtual currency will be required to offer people the ability to see their currency in the future.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 11:20:05 PM # M
With so many people unemployed it would seem a good time to finish assembling the crew to sail e-knarr.

Any thoughts?

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/2/2010 11:20:06 PM # M
With so many people unemployed it would seem a good time to finish assembling the crew to sail e-knarr.

Any thoughts?

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/4/2010 7:17:43 PM # M
More e-motion http://www.timescolonist.com/mobile/technology/top-stories/Nokia+releases+bicycle+powered+chargers/3107350/story.html

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/5/2010 5:57:53 PM # M
More e-motion http://mobile.nytimes.com/article?a=608437&f=24

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/5/2010 6:34:06 PM # M
E-motion can power we-com virtual wallets with out being a burden to existing energy grids.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/8/2010 10:06:47 PM # M
Less than a year left and plan-et can do more.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/10/2010 6:06:22 PM # M
How many smartphones will interact with we-com virtual wallets?

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/11/2010 6:56:41 PM # M
It's exciting to think of all the possibilities that exist for the crew that helps to build e-knarr. i am happy to report that we have kept our word and waited for our entire crew to return so we can build further upon our thoughts.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/12/2010 6:37:40 PM # M
To think we are indeed more advanced economically then the Jetson's generation wildest commerce concepts is invigorating.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/13/2010 2:32:13 PM # M
Is this an issue in your part of the planet? http://www.timescolonist.com/mobile/business/top-stories/Higher+pension+premiums+needed+finance+minister/3146823/story.html

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/13/2010 2:43:47 PM # M
Can a we-com virtual wallet help pay for more such as pensions? Do more businesses sharing the tax burden reduce taxes for the individual? Are taxes being raised as a consequence of not enough revenue to tax? How can we-com innovation help?

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/14/2010 7:45:24 PM # M
It would seem that a we-com virtual wallet can pay for everything that the customer wants and the markets can afford. To offer more choices will require some more thoughts to keep the quality high while still affordable to those that want a we-com virtual wallet.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/14/2010 7:56:11 PM # M
As mentioned several times in the past Metal is a good material to use for we-com virtual wallets. The volume will have to be significant to use metal and carbon fiber. Working on a global offering will help increase the volume. It is logical to start working with nations that have shared their thoughts on building we-com virtual wallet choices.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/17/2010 8:16:20 PM # M
Perhaps in the future smartphones will become mobile servers. Where we-com interaction will take place. The mobile server will allow telephone and we-com interaction. What could we call a mobile server?

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/17/2010 8:21:11 PM # M
Bluetooth will be the phone connectivity. Bluetooth could also interact with e-knarr.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/18/2010 6:17:11 PM # M
Imagine a planet where we trade with people that understand our concepts. A planet where we replace war with trade. A planet where farmers of opium have more choices with less negative consequences.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/19/2010 7:21:56 PM # M
Sorry to be repetitive. in 2011 our help will no longer be needed in the desert. That will free up some resources to build upon more trade. We will need a group focused on developing secure virtual currency. This currency would interact with we-com virtual wallets. Thanks we do have unemployed people that have the skills to take on such an initiative.

E-T

RE: off topic we-com virtual wallet
e_tellurian @ 6/21/2010 5:15:15 PM # M
Will we need virtual cash registers that interact with we-com virtual wallets?

E-T

RE: urgent
e_tellurian @ 6/22/2010 8:38:04 PM # M
ed at 3:47

etellurian (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

There's nothing like taking care of business.Peace,E-T

I never said this in 1999. This is wrong information posted under google search e-tellurian

To find the correct date go to youtube song taking care of business.

Just trying to keep the information straight.

E-T

urgent
e_tellurian @ 6/22/2010 10:58:50 PM # M
Lechia Gda?sk - War Footage of Canadian Soldiers in Afghanistan

etellurian (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am). None of the people i know died to defend the opium industry. Their lives were lost offering a better solution to ...

Did not say this in 1999.

E-T

in other news...

jca666us @ 6/9/2010 6:00:14 AM # M
palm's developer of webos notification system retreats back to apple.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=110266

looks like palm's "IP" is fleeing as quickly as they can!


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