Comments on: PalmInfocenter Holiday Break

"Fundamentally, we are concerned about PLMO's device-only business model that is heavily dependent on the success of a single product."

Certainly seems to lend some credence to the crowd who says PLMO and PSRC should have never split.

Pat - In the long run, only earnings matter.

GG

>"News for Gekko: In the long run, nothing matters."

Typical Liberal moral relativism.

>No, you eejit, non-Republican realism. Keep waiting for that Rapture, pal.<

Typical Liberal resort to personal attack when the Liberal can not come up with a substantive retort.

In my little corner of the world Palm has made what looks like across the board $50.00 cuts except for the T5, which has one of those "buy me and get this free" type offers that equal $50.00. Intrestingly, the T3 was on sale for $279.00.

Happy Holidays all!

"The Anglo-Saxon-Scots-Irish people are the most warlike people in history, and their enemies forget it at their peril. "

Here's your civil discourse:

http://www.americabeyondcapitalism.com/

Thanks Mike. This is OT, but I really have no other way to ask you this but have you read this book? If you think its worth reading, then I will check it out. I agree with his thesis that liberals need to rethink their beliefs. I believe that liberals generally (and the Democratic party in particular) are in the same place that conservatives and the Republican party were after November 1964.

Rick C

Feel better soon, Ryan. Thanks for the great site and for all thay you do to make it a success.

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Your efforts and input into PIC have made it a great source of entertainment and information for many years, Ryan. You deserve a break but what a shame you had the 'flu!

Keep up the good work and hope you're feeling 100% again soon.

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My Homepage too......You deserve the rest.

Zodiac2/T616
2.128 gigs under the hood.

Get well soon man.

Get some rest.

Couple weeks ago I woke up dizzy and felt that way for most of a week. Kind of like seasickness without any other symptoms. If I closed my eyes I would slam into whatever wall was to my right. Was about to set a Doctor appointment, but it slowly went away.

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David

>> "Couple weeks ago I woke up dizzy and felt that way for most of a week. Kind of like seasickness without any other symptoms. If I closed my eyes I would slam into whatever wall was to my right. Was about to set a Doctor appointment, but it slowly went away."

Sounds like an inner-ear infection, or something thereabouts. Inner-ear problems typically impair equilibrium, resulting in dizziness, a sense of spinning, or this "seasickness" you describe. They go away in time.

Dr. Foo recommends that you see your doctor next time this occurs. And take two HotSyncs and call me in the morning. You'll be getting my bill in the mail in two weeks. Oh, and I DON'T make house calls. :-P

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Over his ears? That would look nice.

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Orange juice?! That's a homophobic drink!

(More history to puzzle the wee ones!)

Aw, here's a hint:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Bryant

Thanks for all that you do Ryan. Get rest, get well, get blessed :)

antoinerjwright.com

Yea, dog's have something to teach us. Their life is shorter yet they take plenty of naps. We think our rush rush asphalt treadmill life is natural, but it isn't.

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David

Well, [url]http://www.palmsource.com/[/url] seems to work for me. It's all new and shiny too!

"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."

www.palmsource.com still not working in Asia... It routes to verisign's under construction page...

Hey Ryan,

I think I speak for everyone (okay, *MOST* everyone!) when I say get well soon. Take your time and recover, and I'm sure we'll all be here ready to spew bile and conspiracy theories, insult one another, and be general wankers when you get well!

Seriously, PIC is a great site, and thank you for all you do. We spend lots of time insulting and second guessing you, but we hardly ever take the time to say thanks.

It's been all over the Forums...

A "power user"? I thought such persons were fiction, ancient fables spread by those who frequented these boards druing the dark times. Frightened me, you have, with mention of the abominations. I fear I must go out a replenish my supply of garlic and slinkies...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Haig

The Wikipedia is a wonderful resource for those things that make you go hmmm...

Doug

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Guys, you should back off Al Haig. Making it to general is no mean feat. Most of us here can only dream of success like that.

Now I will stump the Wiki by saying, You deserve a No Prize!

Perhaps, but you won't stump the True Belivers. :)

1000->Personal->IRUpgrade->TRGPro->HE330->Treo 180

>>>Anglo-Saxon-Scots-Irish people are the most warlike people in history

-- but the Irish at least have a sense of humor.

I'll drink to that!

Perhaps the same fate will befall our dear friend ska?

"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."

I'm still waiting for a side-by-side pic of the Sony PSP and a Tungsten T5/Zodiac. Hello Japanese friends!

Nokia 3650 bluetooth magnate

courtesy of Vidge

http://www.dailygadget.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1133

http://www.dailygadget.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1134

http://www.dailygadget.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1135

http://www.dailygadget.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4355

Tom's Hardware Review

The OQO: WindowsXP in the Palm of Your Hand

http://www20.tomshardware.com/mobile/20041214/index.html

VoR,

You appeared to have forgotten to ask Santa to drop a bag of coal on Nagel's house, Considering all the kind things you have said about him over the year, I can only conclude you are getting soft.

"The Anglo-Saxon-Scots-Irish people are the most warlike people in history, and their enemies forget it at their peril. "

You appeared to have forgotten to ask Santa to drop a bag of coal on Nagel's house, Considering all the kind things you have said about him over the year, I can only conclude you are getting soft.

Rumor has it there are already some pretty hot coals being placed under Nagel's feet. PalmSource is a house of cards and Nagel has sucked so many millions out of its anemic carcass that VampireBoy will likely soon be moving on to some fresher meat.

Funny how people like Gasse, Nagel, Jobs etc always manage to do well - even when their companies are/were fighting desperately to stay alive. The greed in Corporate America is truly astounding.

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Personally, I have never had any problems with the quality of Palm/p1 products.

My wish list:-

1. p1 must continue its commitment to making units which appeal to average users; rather than trying to impress geeks like us with gee-whiz gadgets. They must not waste resources on 'bleeding edge' technology. Just go with what works, and continue to do it better than anyone else.

2. The p1 designers must be told to write 'FORM FACTOR IS IMPORTANT' 100 times on a whiteboard. They must be told, in no uncertain terms, to stop designing bricks like the TC, T3 and T5 and go back to thinner and lighter units which fit well in the hand. Better battery life wouldn't hurt either.

3. p1 must invest much more in marketing, with greater emphasis
on the benefits of using a handheld computer in daily life. The key is to sell solutions; not computers.

4. p1 must do more to educate IT managers on the benefits of p1 units in the workplace. Let me give you an example of what I mean - the deputy head of our IT department told me 2 weeks ago that WinCE is better than PalmOS, because WinCE allows Word documents to be edited - she had never heard of Documents to Go! (I'm not sure how how to address this problem, but a starting point would be to sponsor articles in some of the leading computer magazines and buying some advertising space wouldn't hurt either.)

5. The Treo line must be pitched better, with more emphasis how it outdoes the RIM Blackberry line in every way.

Since the likelihood of any of the above wish lists coming true in '05 are looking grim (at least in the 1st half of '05), I went ahead and snagged one final open-box T3 the other day. I figure if I use my 2 T3s gingerly, I can coast through '05 until some more enticing options pan out.

I agree with most of the points outlined above and I agree with Voice that outsouring tech support is butcherng the "reputations" of many companies. I recently spoke with a corporate buyer who just bought a bunch of MPC machines (the old-timers here will remember them as the remnants of Micron's PC division) due in large part to their outstanding phone tech support staff. I agree with the predictions that we'll start seeing a renewed focus on tech support at least for higher-end -product lines. Imagine that, P1 having Tungsten models carry longer warranties and domestic tech support staff as a reason to justify >$200 pricetags and non-day glow color schemes!

AN OPEN LETTER TO PALMONE MANAGEMENT -

Palm1 needs to go back to the simple basics. The best PDA I ever had was the Handspring Visor EDGE: metal-body, metal stylus, perfect-size with an extremely ultra-slim body, corner LED to let you know its charging and to silently alert you, a cradle, and a hard metal flip cover that actually protected the screen...too bad my Edhge recently went DOA after nearly 3 years of faithful service. Even 3 years old, it still looked cool and garnered attention from onlookers. I had a Sony Clie for a while, I believe it was the T60, but eBayed it after a few months and went back the HS Edge. So, now I look for a replacement and see what's out there and I am NOT at all happy with the offerings. Handspring is gone, Sony is gone, so Palm1 has NO competition and thinks they can make whatever they want and we will buy it - well, do we have a choice other than to turn to the dark side (aka PPC) ?

Couldn't Palm1 come out with an "Edge"-type model with a color screen? I saw the Tungsten E and Zire 72, but they lack one very IMPORTANT thing : NO f---ing cradle! Excuse my language. I would hate to keep plugging in a power plug and a hotsync plug every time I want to charge up the unit or hotsync it with my PC. What happened to the cradle? Did the bean counters force management to eliminate the cradle? A cradle... a link for the PDA and the PC. Now, a missing link! Bring back the cradle!!!

I read PIC and see how Palm1 is trying to make the PDA a replacement for the notebook computer - adding all the bells and whistles in the T5, but, unfortunately, in a very ugly looking body. They would have been better off using an old m515 body then the one they have on the T5 now. And the plastic, shiny body on the T3... another disappointment. The blue paint body of the Zire 72 peeling off so much that they had to make a Special Edition model without the blue paint to fend off all the complaints from Zire 72 owners whose blue Zire 72 naturally turned into a "special edition" silver. I was even tempted by the basic Zire 31, but the 160x160 screen on it, even though it's in color, turned me away - it actually hurt my eyes when I used it for 5 minutes at CompUSA - but, again, there lies a bigger problem : no cradle.

Palm1 is failing in a simple step to design a decent looking PDA body - if the body at least looks decent, then all the other bells and whistles packaged with it will be a winning combination. But, once you fail at the first step...

Like I first said, if Palm1 would just design a basic PDA (a la Handspring Visor Edge, but with a 320x320 color screen) and package it WITH A CRADLE then I think they will appeal to a mass audience and have a successful and profitable product. Keep it simple and cheap - no flash memory, no voice recorder, no camera, no vibrating alert - just a decent, usuable metal stylus and, please, a cradle.

Any recommendation on a a new PDA for now? Thanks everyone for letting me vent and enjoy the holidays. And Ryan, get well soon - we need our daily dose of Palm-related news, rumors, upcoming models, complaints, and etc.

Bluetooth version ($695): http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=TH55

Non-Bluetooth version ($540): http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=111907

Yeah, those prices are obscene, but I don't know anywhere else that's selling new ones. eBay's not worth the hassle.

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I agree TH55.

Possibly the last best PalmOS handheld.

Dynamism is now selling the VZ90 for $899. Once you've seen the OLED in person, nothing else will do. Still, the TH55 is the best tablet-style PDA sold in the USA. If Sony could have just given us another revision of the TH55 design, it probably would have been perfect. These things are going to be collector's items in a few years.

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I never understood what the problem is. I can search just as fast (apparently) as I have always been able to search.

Seems fine to me.

Treo 650 users should download EVERYTHING from this site ASAP, before Palm's lawyers threaten to sue the site out of existence!!!

http://www.shadowmite.com/

Instructions for how to customize the Treo 650 ROM as taken from a post here:

http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=66966&page=1

Shadowmite's instructions:
1) You must have a SD card reader/writer for your computer
1a) Insert your SD card
1b) Change the name of your palm folder if present to bak or whatever other than palm
1c) Copy the palm and rom folders inside the zip file onto the root directory of your card
1d) When finished with Faisal's instructions please delete the new folders you added and rename your palm folder back.

INSTRUCTIONS AS POSTED BY FAISAL:
1. IMPORTANT!!! Plug your device into the charger first. Hot sync if you have not already. Remember. At the end of this, you will have to hard reset your device, so you will lose everything on it.
2. When you put the card in the SD slot, it should default to the "Card" applications menu.
3. Tap the ROMUpdater app. It will take you to a screen with a lot of text.
4. Type "rev cvt2" (no quotes). Hit the return key.
5. Type "ace" (no quotes). Hit the return key.
6. After the flash is complete, it will say, "PLEASE HARD RESET YOUR DEVICE". Here is how you do it:
a) Remove the battery cover and use the stylus to do a pin reset, located on the left side of the battery.
b) Quickly look at the LCD. You will see a bar moving from left to right. Before it reaches about midpoint on the bottom of the screen, press and hold down the RED phone button until you see the Palm logo.
c) When you see the Palm logo (the moving bar is gone), release the RED phone button. You will be prompted to press the up button to erase all of your data. Please do so.
7. Follow the steps to recalibrate your touch screen.
8. You are done! Re-sync your data and turn on your radio by pressing and holding the RED phone button.

Now to modifying your own ROM (OPTIONAL and not for the faint hearted, you can just flash with one of the ROMs posted by Shadowmite):
Few notes first,
* First do not delete all the MM files, some of them are needed for the SD card.
* Verizon hacked phones are a problem at this time, be careful.
* If your ROM flash fails DO NOT DO a hard reset BEFORE you re-flash with the original ROM. You could lose your phone to an eternal hard reset loop if you do not have a functional ROM before you hard reset.
* The ace-palmos.zip size cannot be over 6.8mb or something very close to that

Instructions by SaliRace
1) Start with a known working version of the ROM
2) Unzip the file ace-palmos.zip to another working folder on your desktop
3) Remove any .PRC files and any other files related to the program you are trying to delete. (BE VERY CAREFUL OF WHAT YOU DELETE), I recommend starting with one of Shadowmites ROM updates as he has stripped most to the bare bone. Add any PRC files you wish to include in the ROM remember the size cannot exceed 6.8 mb.
4) Open up the boot.conf file in a text editor (used Word and it worked fine or better yet NOTEPAD) and remove any db= references to the files you just deleted. This stops the boot file from looking for those programs, which would otherwise cause it to stick in a reset loop. Add the db="new prc you just included in the ace-palmos.zip" without "". NOTE: not all PRC files can be loaded into ROM, esp those who will modify its size after entering serial number (Patched apps or apps that save the serial number info on RAM are fine, research this in other threads before you add you fav prc file).
5) Save this new boot.conf file and overwrite the old one
6) Use WINZIP (or something equivelant) to re-zip the folder an name it the same ace-palmos.zip
7) Using an MD5 checksum utility (available here as an attachment), run a checksum on the new ace-palmos.zip, open the file named ace-palmos.zip.md5 again with NOTEPAD, paste the NEW checksum value with the new value given by the MD5.
8) Copy the Palm and ROM folders to your SD card (After renaming the existing PALM folder if it exists), and run the updater. If the checksum utility did not create the right totals, it will tell you so, and will no update. Therefore, do not worry if you are not very comfortable with the MD5 utility, it gives some room to experiment.
Follow the instructions by shadowmite and Faisal above, then a hard reset when prompted to do so (ONLY HARD RESET IF YOU WERE ABLE TO FLASH THE ROM WITH NO ERRORS, if you get any errors re-flash with original ROM available at shadowmite's website).

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Voice, If you chop something up without all the l33t speak I will publish it under your name or "Voice" or what have you. I have no chance to survive, so make your time (joke ppl)

This offer also extends to any other Treo power user that would like to write something up on this new development. Email it to ryan @ palminfocenter ... you know the rest. Big TIA!

Nice to see someone finally posted a (weak) news item writeup on this.

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Ryan: Let him do it. When PS sues PIC and him, his ID will be revealed in the suit. And then the Night of the Long Knives can finally begin...

Voice, please--a juicy tidbit or two to tide us over these long winter nights between now and the new year?

Also, better make sure the blokes over at The Register don't try to steal your "scoop" ;-)

Ryan: glad to hear you're feeling better! Keep on getting plenty of rest.

Kids are so damned STUPID these days...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

mikecane:
Thanks for that tidbit about cell phones. Geez, I thought I was safe, now I'll have to keep myself away from all sources of radiation, so that means no cordless phones, no computers, no microwave, no refrigerator, no television, no sun, no stereo, no palm- nevermind.
Really, this whole thing's been blown way out of proportion. Yes, microwaves and what have you can cause irreverseable damage to cells at the DNA level, but there are several things I have to say about that (please don't take this as patronization, just a rant at society):
(1) Cell phones do not put out that much radiation. Putting a lab rat in the microwave is not the equivelant of cell phone use. I know, that's an exageration, so don't patronize me.
(2) We've been using devices that produce copious amounts of electromagnetic radiation since Marconi invented the radio.
(3) We are also exposed to natural radiation ALL THE TIME. UVA, UVB, solar, microwave, gamma ray, etc., all from that big burning ball of gas we depend upon.
(4) Trying to claim that the cancer rate is on the rise (aside from the results of carcinogens such as those found in cigarettes) is ludicrous. Yes, diagnosed cases of cancer are on the rise. That's diaganosed. Fifty years ago, how many people did you meet who had cancer? More than you know. Modern medicine has increased our ability to find and treat tumors that we never even knew existed. If we were to go back fifty years, we'd find that many 'natural' deaths were the result of cancer. Hell, everbody has cancer. Do you have a mole anywhere? That's a benign form of cancer. Most cancers are caused by random gene mutations, the same kind of mutations that made you different from your sibling (assuming you have one and that he/she is not your identical twin). It's genetics, folks.
End Rant. This post will self-destruct in ten seconds.

"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."

Oh no, a cosmic ray has broken a DNA strand!

Destroy! Kill! Destroy!

Keep wondering.

Old enough not to use a dumba** handle.

Old enough to have better things to do with my time than to wonder about other people.

Old enough to know better than Gekko how the world *really* works.

Why don't you just put down that shovel and walk away from the hole you're digging?

Me, hidebound? I voted for Nader!

Gekko is the one who is still in the swoon of that disgusting indictment, "Wall Street." Too bad he can't clone Catherine Z-J. I'm sure he'd like that...

How many lumps did you get for Xmas, Gekko? One or ... T5? Hahahaha.

Hmmm... the link between the 1987 film "Wall Street" and Catherine Zeta Jones is tenuous. She never appeared in the film, but did marry one of the actors in it back in the late 90s.

As for an anwer to the question on "why would you clone HER?" the gallery in this site, http://come.to/czj , may go some way to answering that question. That face... that hair... those legs... the buns... that rack! Too much for an 18 year-old to handle! ;-)

Agreed about Paris, looks like something out of Madame Tussault's Wax Museum. Although, she could buy and sell Gordon Gekko, and at least you know she's going to put out for you. You may even appear on video!

Odd you don't find CZJ attractive though; looked awesome in Intolerable Cruelty (I know, crap film). How about Winona Ryder? I guess these are all old sheilas to you, Cap'n (and I'm 30 years older than you). Since PIC forums are deceased, perhaps we should start an OT thread on hotties right here.

>>(there's absolutely nothing atractive about Paris Hilton)

You mean you don't find her violent case of herpes hot?

>>You may even appear on video!

Remember that rumored second video circulating around? That is NOT, I repeat, NOT Alex Bosco.

On another unrelated note, The Simple Life 3 was shot for a short time ten minutes from my house. A friend of mine at my high school went over there for an interview for Methacton (my high school), and while he's under an NDA as to not be able to say what happened, he can tell us at the very least what the public saw. He came out of the house in only his boxers, and there's a picture of him mostly naked with Paris and Nicole sitting on either side of his lap. I'm sure he contracted HPV, herpes, and hemorrhoids just by that.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T637

>>>why not vote for somebody who has a chance of winning?

Why not vote for someone who really wants to CHANGE things?

God, you're not only young, you're politically stupid too.

Democrat/Republican: Two brand names for the SAME PARTY!

As if that ambulatory stiff Kerry *ever* had a chance. Right. Not with that crackpot he married!

Next!

>"As if that ambulatory stiff Kerry *ever* had a chance."

Wrong word. "ambulatory" means mobile.

I guess you could say Kerry was physically wooden/stiff but his political positions were "ambulatory".

Hair: I'm not going to debate further with you. Your questions are ridiculous.

This isn't the first time my wit has gone unappreciated. It won't be forgotten. I feel like Stewie.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + T637

I'll never understand what the viewing public's fascination is with the Hilton Hores (misspelling intentional). Yes, they are attractive..in a filthy, trashy, nasty, venereal disease laden, I need to wear three condoms at once in order to safely engage them in intercourse without having my penis rot off sort of way.

What really blows my mind is why people are so enamored with "Reality" TV in general, considering NONE OF IT is real at all. All these shows are scripted and the so-called contestants are actually paid actors. Even if it were legitimate I STILL wouldn't watch because there is no redeeming quality to such trash. It's just another form or voyeurism. Reality Tv's only real purpose is to sell products, or rather advertising to viewers. Just by tuning in you've become a sucker. The same can be said for TV programming in general, but there is far better content out there...or at least you can find better ways of wasting brain cells.

No wonder Americans are becoming obese. They sit on their fat arse and live vicariously through someone else's life. Hey! I've got a REAL reality show that you can enjoy and even participate in yourself; it's called LIFE. Tune in every day, it's on 24 hours and you don't even need a TV.

I rarely watch TV these days. Thank god for DirectTV. If it weren't for BBC America, The History Channel, Discovery Channel, Sci-Fi, AMC, and TCM I'd never use a damn television at all except as a viewing medium for console gaming.

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Yes you can vote people off the planet; it's called Murder. :-P

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>>>I spoke to my contact and they asked me to refrain from posting

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Cop out! Chicken! Coward! Spineless! Gutless! Weasel!!

In fact, EVERYTHING we ALREADY KNEW about you!

Even behind a fake name, he has no fekkin GUTS!

What a note to end the year on.

Please go away now. Forever.

Bummer.
Too bad about your source.

Sorry Ryan, but doing that would only hurt PalmSource (and Palm). Right now, the company needs all the support we can give them. It was inappropriate for me to have posted the original comment, and I apologize to my contact and everyone here. Ryan, if my posts in this thread can be deleted, please do so.

For years, I've been one of Palm's most vocal critics, always with the hope that honest criticism could "encourage" them to fix the many problems that have been obvious to those of us who are longtime Palm supporters. A few of Palm's management team are lurkers at Palminfocenter and they're all fully aware of the company's mistakes. These guys aren't idiots. Some things - like the Treo 650 Memory Disaster™ - the company has been forced to respond to quickly, in order to avert a PR and sales nightmare. Other problems were known design compromises that the company had no intention of ever correcting, so in some ways, it's a waste of time asking them to fix certain "issues".

PalmSource is hurting, but they still have a LOT of good people working for them (for now). While it's sad to see the way Palm(Source/One) has been looted by its executives over the years, given who's currently in charge, I don't expect that to change. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, so I'm going to bow out of the PalmSource commentary for now. As long as slash and burn panic mode doesn't set in, PalmOS will survive. And remember, this is a mature OS with a huge user base. PalmSource could be an attractive acquisition for a company with an interest in obtaining a turnkey mobile business platform.

Anyway, I hope you understand my position.

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Oh, all of a sudden he goes all sniffy-sniffy touchy-feely on p1 and PS! Give us a break! What'd you do for a New Year's Resolution, get yet ANOTHER personality to go with the others you have? Go re-read your messages; your snide, know-it-all, sneering messages about both companies (and about one particular INDIVIDUAL!). The rest of us have that cr*p burned into our minds. Who do you think you're kidding? You can't deliver because you never had ONE DAMNED THING to deliver, period. "Insider," my eye. Just like that CLIE UX that never materialized that you allegedly saw. Right.

Mikey-poo: Go **** yourself. Really. I'm not sure what you have "burned into [your mind]", but I hope it will finally knock some sense into you. Feel free to believe whatever you want to. I (and most likely everyone else here) don't care what you think. You are merely a loudmouthed ignoramus with shockingly little true understanding of even basic technical or hardware matters. The fact that you spend dozens of hours per week pouring over every Palm-related site on the net, yet still continue to spew an endless amount of drivel shows you lack the ability to learn from what you read. Hopefully someday you'll understand why everyone here with any knowledge about PalmOS knows you are about as clueless as the newest newbie. At least most newbies know enough to S T F U until they've learned enough to contribute something useful.

A couple months ago I said that an English localized VZ90 was recently spotted in San Francisco. Don't believe me? Whatever, Mike. Next time I'll make sure to take some photos so you can cry "Fake!" as you keep pining for something to replace your S320. Don't be jealous of others with better lives than you, Mike. You sad, sad, little old man.

Take care, Sweetie.

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"The dumbest people I know are those who know it all." - Malcolm Forbes

Great. I hear they're selling buggy whips cheap too.

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"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."

Brighthand is pretty good, TreoCentral also rocks, things are going nuts over there!

"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."

Floor models of fancy devices are notoriously unreliable. Somebody probably broke the thing and it's impossible to reset it when its in a cage or such.

"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."

Check back tommorrow. Seriously.

"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."

Frank,

I think it's one guy's idea to bring PalmOS news, information, and community forums to the internet.

What it grew into, either by choice or by circumstance is something more. Possibly more than can be maintained indefinitely.

Unless you are a shareholder and stand to lose money, or if you wrote massive amounts of code to bring the thing to life and stand to lose time and credibility, don't worry about it so much.

It's Ryan's thing to do with as he pleases, we just get to watch and make our little comments.

I would like to see PIC thrive, but something is preventing that, either blockage from without or lack of will from within.

Right now I feel like we're all just checking in to see it it's still breathing.

Like the very PalmOS itself. Hmm... metaphor anyone?

What on Earth did you eat for breakfast?

"People who think they're smart annoy those of us who are."

Mike, I wish I could show you the video of your Mistress Dianne in action. Even you could probably cancel your Viagra prescription within 30 seconds of starting the tape. Not the prettiest girl in town, but WOW. I love the Bay Area. I tried to score an invite to one of the local parties but my friend flaked out on me last month. And if ever DK figures out who it was... heh heh heh.

;-)

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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.