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RE: Likely could mean years from now or never
RE: Likely could mean years from now or never
ken wirt of palm already said it would take at least "one year" after they got plinux for them to ship a phone.
i'm too tired to find the quote/interview but it's out there.
RE: Likely could mean years from now or never
Still, I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith in what "linux" means to an editor who thinks that Palm bought CMS.
Marty Fouts
I survived PalmSource '05
RE: Likely could mean years from now or never
Ken Wirt, senior vice-president of marketing, said his firm was waiting for PalmSource to port the Palm environment to Linux before moving away from Palm OS 5. He said that there were no plans to produce Windows Mobile PDAs. "It will take us about a year to build a product on Palm OS for Linux after they come out with it," Wirt added.
http://www.itweek.co.uk/itweek/analysis/2143406/sight-palm
RE: Likely could mean years from now or never
"While Palm looks set to continue shipping Palm OS 5 handhelds for the near future, Wirt admitted there would have to be a cut-off point. "At some point in the future, we would obviously prefer to be on one platform," he said."
: - o
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Likely could mean years from now or never
Reverend - I think Wirt means "One PALM platform" - ie -
1. Garnet *OR* Plinux
2. Windows Mobile
G
Make of this what you will.....
I was under the impression that Palm was only going to have one OS i.e: the linux derived one.
RE: Make of this what you will.....
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: The web is full of Me-Tooers
That being said, this directly conflicts with the "we don't need any other OS" comments from the Palm big guns. It's likely that Palm is in fact experimenting with different hardware and software. As to whether anything will come of it, well that could easily swing both ways.
RE: The web is full of Me-Tooers
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: The web is full of Me-Tooers
RE: The web is full of Me-Tooers
So-called "embedded" Linux is a bit different. There are no real distros, just a few companies selling kernels and minimum sets of tools, like MontaVista, or companies without kernel experience selling GUI stuff like TollTech. So these days, everyone rolls their own "distro".
OSDL, CE-Linux, and now LiPS are trying to change that, but, true to the LinuxWay(tm) they're agreeing to disagree. As Larry Wall says, "There's more than one way to do it", and the Linux community seems to hit on all of them at one time or another. (I love that part, it keeps life fresh for developers.)
Expect embedded Linux to be like PC Linux in that there will be dozens, if not hundreds of attempts to create a distribution and that out of these a small number will come to dominate. Where emedded Linux will differ from the PC is in the degree of customization available. Carriers, especially in the US, are not likely to allow a great deal of customization, and consumers of embedded devices are far less likely than even PDA users to want to customize anything beyond the "look and feel" of their feature phones. Of course, look and feel is the last thing that a carrier wants the customer to customize.
Interesting times ahead for those who tread in the linux end of the pool.
Marty Fouts
I survived PalmSource '05
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Nothing like vague comments to fuel the rumor machine
At worst, it is just another product somewhere between a featurephone and a smartphone. At best it could be a transition device to help shorten the time between the release of palmsource linux the OS and a palmsource linux based product.
This device could be a testbed for writing hardware drivers under the linux API and getting familiar with the linux / GNU toolchain.
My biggest hope is that Palm leaves the architecture open enough that they can get the linux hackers excited and involved. Probably going to be dang hard to keep the control freak carriers happy and make it hackable for the geeks but if the can do it, they will have a hit. Get the open source hackers involved and you have the best testing and debugging resources in the world.
I'm still hanging on to my Zire 72 waiting for a decent linux PDA. I'll be the first one in line if they make a linux PDA that can run all my old palm apps.
Oh well, this announce proves nothing but it could be the start of something good.
David
RE: Nothing like vague comments to fuel the rumor machine
I thot the same about getting a stop-gap Linux model out only to make the short jump to Plinux when it hits. I'm speculating.
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: Nothing like vague comments to fuel the rumor machine
Also, do you really think, especially in the US, that the carriers are going to be happy with an open architecture on a phone?
As much as fun as Seti@phone would be, I don't think cingular would be all that interested in allowing it -- unless they could figure out how to charge you for it.
Marty Fouts
I survived PalmSource '05
RE: Nothing like vague comments to fuel the rumor machine
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Likely could mean years from now or never
don't hold your breath.