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Verizon Treo 800wRumor: Engadget Mobile has posted a new leaked slide deck from Verizon, which among other things, reveals some details about a Verizon Treo 800w release. The slide shows a Verizon branded 800w in the same style as the previous leaks and photos and shows a presumptive "Q3 2008" launch timeframe.

The few specs that are posted on the slide mostly matchup with previous information. Noteworthy is the listing are bullet points confirming the inclusion of 802.11b/g WiFi, a microSD expansion slot and a rather low-end 1.3 megapixel camera. 1xEvDO & Rev-A, 256 MB Flash / 128 MB of RAM, Bluetooth (with A2DP) and Windows Mobile 6 are also on board. Read on for the full slide.

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Wow (??!) Wifi / 1.3 MP camera

costein @ 6/3/2008 7:02:59 AM # Q
Who are they trying to make over? The specs they bring out as new, have been in other cell phones for almost 2 years now....besides that the camera ist still crud.
I get the feeling the developers are not only sleeping but als not up to par and not listening as to what the consumer expects in a (smart)phone.
No wonder they are going downhill...

RE: Wow (??!) Wifi / 1.3 MP camera
LiveFaith @ 6/5/2008 5:23:18 PM # Q
Nothing new here costein. This has been the MO for almost 5 years now. Completely and utterly not surprised again.

Pat Horne
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Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value

SeldomVisitor @ 6/5/2008 6:26:24 AM # Q
== "...Researchers secretly tracked the locations of
== 100,000 people outside the United States through
== their cell phone use and concluded that most
== people rarely stray more than a few miles from
== home..."
==
== "...Nearly three-quarters of those studied mainly
== stayed within a 20-mile-wide circle for half a
== year..."

- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24969880/


RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
Gekko @ 6/5/2008 8:20:35 AM # Q

false.

1. i use my nav/gps all the time within a 20 mile radius.
2. what about the other "half" of the year?

nav/gps will soon be standard equipment in all new vehicles just like a radio is today.

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
SeldomVisitor @ 6/5/2008 9:36:26 AM # Q
You ignored the "significant" part.

Yes, GPS will be ubiquitous.

At a buck a shot.

[and as noted repeatedly, I personally have zero use for GPS - I know where I am and where I'm going and how to get around things BEFORE I get in my car for a 20 mile trip - and, as with the 100,000 unit test sample, rarely deviate from well-worn paths. And I giggle myself into incoherency every time I see a 4-wheel-drive SUV (*) driver commuting to work in rush hour traffic staring intently at his/her GPS as it follows his/her path]

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(*) Yesterday we had some fairly significant rainfall here in Northern Virginia. I stopped at a stop light where there was temporary flooding of about 4 inches of water (maybe that much, possibly less. Stopped WAY back from the puddle was a VERY large new-and-obviously-not-used-much pickup truck being driven by a guy in a tie; afraid to stall out? Giggle. And sheesh.

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
LiveFaith @ 6/5/2008 5:34:26 PM # Q
Fad? No way. The tool is in it's infancy for good and evil.

The scary point is that this many people were tracked and recorded in a study without their conscience approval. The noose of Big Brother continues to tighten folks ... meanwhile back in mainstream America we talk around the water cooler Dems vs Repubs. Today and tomorrow, 100-200 of the Western Worlds most influential business, media, political, and intellectual leaders will meet in Chantilly, VA to discuss the direction of the globalist agenda, but not one (NOT ONE!) mainstream news org will report on it. But we will have 137 reports on Hillary's towel being thrown in. I wonder if anyone even pays attention anymore.

Is the privacy of our whereabouts no longer sacred to any of us?

Pat Horne

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
SeldomVisitor @ 6/5/2008 5:48:52 PM # Q
Eh - the study was apparently done in Great Britain where they already record your every movement and even do automated facial identification.

No great loss.

[1984 was, of course, written by a Brit, huh?]

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
m130fullbutcontent @ 6/12/2008 10:34:20 AM # Q
Seldom visitor,
You make the UK sound like big brother already has every movement of every individual tracked and logged every minute of the day...Yeah right - not. There might be signs of it but the government are too cheap skate on public services including the health services, law enforcement as you would refer to it in in the USA - and I have no doubt the security services struggle to cope with their work load. They just won't have the staff frankly to watch or even log such a 1984ish fantasy everyones of data at this time.

Now the Stasi & KGB might have come close with their massive 1984ish apparatus but then they couldn't afford or produce the technology with their failed economy.. They tried to strangle the underground Church and failed. Now it continues to grow over there.

You're acerbic approach to comments on this website concerns me that you may lack hope in your life ?

What I'm getting at is don't be so negative. My Treo 680 has been great so far :an excellent phone, the battery life ain't great but it's enough. It does so much as a unit that it only struggles in that the OS has been so repeatedly modified 3rd party developers couldn't keep up.

I'm encouraged that such useful devices continue to develop from Palm : mine does all that my TX does and has the web, phone etc to boot and is smaller...

If horror of horrors Palm don't maintain the Palm OS line & resort to windows only (please no - bring us Palm on Linux soon !) then at least I'll be able to get a similar job done on something like a Treo 800W...clunkier maybe but it would get by. Good to see such new devices.

I've use Blackberries & Nokias & they just don't cut it. The iPhone ? With no qwerty keyboard? It's an expensive gimmick to many of us in that format..

Besides which Jesus will come again.. so cheer up Seldom Visitor :oD
m130, UK.

IIIe>IIIxe>m125>m130>T3>TE>T3>TX / Treo680

Jesus said : 'I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'
John's Gospel ch. 14 vs 6, NIV

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
SeldomVisitor @ 6/12/2008 10:43:31 AM # Q
> ...Besides which Jesus will come again....

The opiate of the masses.

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
Rastick @ 6/12/2008 10:54:02 AM # Q
"Opiate of the masses" is presumably a misquote of "Opium of the people", which was coined by a failed 19th century politician whose 20th century disciples caused the deaths of tens of millions of people. You keep good company!.
RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
SeldomVisitor @ 6/12/2008 1:26:27 PM # Q
RE: Why SV is wrong
freakout @ 6/12/2008 8:52:15 PM # Q
GPS ain't a fad. It's an incredibly convenient, handy tool. Only a silly bugger would measure a tool's usefulness by how often they use it. You may only need that socket wrench once a year, but damn if it isn't a lifesaver when you do. Same applies to GPS.

And of course, that's not even counting folks like couriers or tradesmen who would see daily usage...

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
akalefty @ 6/13/2008 6:10:18 AM # Q
I agree: GPS is far from a fad, it's actually going to be a key technology in the next evolution of mobile devices. GPS isn't just about navigation, it's about location in general, and that's going to be the focus of workable mobile advertising.

GPS and location-related technologies are also going to enable useful integration of your social network, geotagging of your photos, and other things as well. The integration of location and various expressions of identity (things like interest lists, semantic paths through the web, buying/listening/reviewing histories, etc.) are going to make it even more interesting.

GPS is continuing to get cheaper, smaller, faster and more efficient. Thinking it's only about getting from here to there is short-sighted.

Doc Searls gave a very interesting talk on "Vendor Relationship Management" at GUADEC last year which is relevant to this subject. Doc's Project VRM site is at http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Main_Page...


RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
SeldomVisitor @ 6/13/2008 7:54:34 AM # Q
Reading comprehension is not a mainstay here.

That word "significant" up there is...you know...significant.

As already noted once before even!

Sheesh.

And...

Giggle.

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
mikecane @ 6/13/2008 10:10:33 AM # Q
I can read. And you're still wrong.

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
mikecane @ 6/13/2008 10:12:03 AM # Q
SV: The tribe has voted. You must leave the Enterprise.

http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/where-in-the-world-is/

RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
nastebu @ 6/13/2008 11:41:50 AM # Q
*giggling at rasktack's failed pedantism*

What lefty said seems exactly right to me.

I'm in New York and don't even have a driver's license, so I too have no interest in the conventional uses for gps. The only navigational aid I need is a subway map. But the possibilities for social networking and and location aware applications are pretty cool. It's geeky, but I loved that loopt application demoed at the Apple developer's conference. How funny to turn on your gps beacon and see who is in the neighborhood!



RE: Why GPS is a fad without lasting significant value
SeldomVisitor @ 7/27/2008 9:24:10 AM # Q
> ...Today and tomorrow, 100-200 of the Western Worlds most
> influential business, media, political, and intellectual leaders
> will meet in Chantilly, VA to discuss the direction of the globalist
> agenda...

So THAT'S what that was! Lol! At the time I drove by the Conference Center and saw that it had been =completely= "taped off" (LOTS of tape!). Figured someONE important had visited like a campaign stop or something. Now I know! LOTS of someones!

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Mr Cane: your star trek link in your blog entry noted above is broken due to copyright restrictions.

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Verizon Treo 800w

davis1900 @ 7/29/2008 12:40:50 AM # Q
Verizon not carrying the Centro will result in my moving five lines from Verizon to ATT over the next 6 months. That's a pain. I love the Palm products.

The manager alluded to Palm having financial difficulties and margins as a reason why Verizon would not stock the Centro. I was surprised the manager was so open with me about this.

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davis
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RE: Verizon Treo 800w
hkklife @ 7/29/2008 12:54:34 AM # Q
"Verizon not carrying the Centro?"

Don't you mean Verizon not carrying the 800w!?!?!

The Centro has been available at Verizon for nearly 2 months now.

If this rumor is true (and I have no reason to believe it isn't) then it makes the 700wx WM6 update for Verizon only look all the more likely.

As far as the margins go, I have a harder time believing that. Verizon has never been shy about pricing their handsets or smartphones higher than comparable offerings on other carriers. They think (and know) that most customers will pay for "the network".



Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p

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