Comments on: Palm Pre Post Event Impressions

Palm promised the world some "new-ness" today in Vegas and they certainly did not disappoint. Alongside Palm's revolutionary new WebOS, Ed Colligan and Jon Rubinstein showcased Palm's fantasntic new smartphone designed to run the new operating system. While we have not yet had any hands-on time with the device, Ryan and I were seated on the 2nd row during the presentation and got a very good look at the unit.

Stylistically, the device has smoothly rounded corners reminiscent of some of the earlier HTC smartphones. It basically mimics the Treo Pro's design aesthetic, but has a much less "busy" front bezel. Most of the hard buttons have been removed, with the exception of a single button located underneath the screen. Not much was said about this feature but it's presumably some kind of scroll wheel analogous to what is found on the HTC G1 or the BlackBerry Trackball. The traditional Palm ring/mute switch is thankfully present, and the power button is a dual-function design similar to that found on the Treo Pro.

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palmit @ 1/8/2009 2:04:58 PM # Q
No IR port

very minor and rare to find on other phones.

No stylus anywhere

not needed

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ZireGuy31 @ 1/8/2009 2:09:46 PM # Q
The Palm Pre looks great I want it! But I'm sure it will have a pretty price tag too. Hopefully Palm releases some lower end devices running webOS soon! Anyone know if webOS will run older Palm programs?
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Expandable Memory

He||Raiser @ 1/8/2009 2:27:06 PM # Q
If you guys get the chance to talk again with anyone at Palm who will listen, you should push for a microSD slot. If they really want this to be an effective media device, they should make expandable storage available. That is, unless they make the device capable of Hulu playback and streaming of music from a subscription service (like Rhapsody) available.

If they got video and music streaming nailed down, I for one would welcome my new webOS overlords.

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zkam @ 1/8/2009 6:57:01 PM # Q
One of the partners that were mentioned was Pandora, so we know it will at least have audio streaming built in to some degree. I wouldn't be surprised, then, to see video streaming of some sort.
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nosoupforyou @ 1/10/2009 4:07:05 PM # Q
I really think this could use a SD card slot, if any of you have seen the new SDXC cards, you'll be drooling over the new memory capabilities.
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Great job Ryan, Kris

freakout @ 1/8/2009 2:27:40 PM # Q
There's better be some hands-on experiences for me to check out when I check back in!

Or better yet... can you steal me the demo unit?

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Treo 270 -> Treo 650 -> Treo 680 -> Centro

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Old PIM Data

cstamper @ 1/8/2009 2:47:44 PM # Q
Of course you can migrate it. palmDesktop supports csv exports, and outlook+everythingelse supports csv imports.
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mcleaver @ 1/9/2009 1:46:27 AM # Q
The last thing I want to do is migrate anything to that mammoth Outlook. I want a Pre with Palm Desktop - the best PIM there is!

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CADJedi @ 1/9/2009 7:01:51 AM # Q

I agree. I think the Palm Desktop was/is more of a strength to the platform than many people give it credit for.

Outlook is bloated and slow and cumbersome. The Palm Desktop, while not perfect, is quick, has a smaller footprint, and does the PIM thing simply and smoothly.

I too have no desire to leave all my data out there in "the cloud", whatever exactly that means. I, like many people spend hours a day in front of my laptop... I enter a good amount of PIM data while on the phone at my desk or working on other projects at my desk... I don't always have access to the web and don;t want to store all my PIM on the web even if I could.

There is still a need for a good, robust PIM manager on your PC or Mac separate from "the cloud".

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Nice wrap-up, Kris

craigf @ 1/8/2009 2:55:37 PM # Q
Great summary. I agree about your omissions. The only two that bother me at the moment are the lack of SD slot and unresolved question about backwards compatibility with Palm OS Garnet apps.

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There's a card slot

mikecane @ 1/8/2009 3:06:16 PM # Q
I'm looking at video of the presentation.

The slot is hidden top right of the back *under* the lid. No open slot. It's internal and requires the back to come off (as with changing the battery).

Eh. Not sure I mind having to take off the back for card access.

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mikecane @ 1/8/2009 3:24:59 PM # Q

That's actually probably the SIM card slot!

I see in the specs from Palm - wtf? NO card slot? 8GBs is it?

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Gekko @ 1/8/2009 3:52:00 PM # Q

i thought i saw that there was a microSD slot during the treo central cover it live.

BTW - this is great technology -

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mikecane @ 1/8/2009 5:33:20 PM # Q
Palm's own specs do not list a card slot at all.

Welcome to iPhoneLand, Gekko. Your nightmare has begun!

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Gekko @ 1/8/2009 5:39:52 PM # Q

i think i confused microUSB and microSD.

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ReadOnly @ 1/8/2009 7:23:44 PM # Q
I too thought the right side slot was a microSD slot.
I have not seen the bottom side yet - I figure that is where the microUSB connector is?

I seriously hope there is a card slot - I backup to SD. While backing up to the cloud is a nice/vital feature, it is not ALWAYS available - like in some locations without EVDO or other G3 coverage, or if a CDMA phone user takes their Palm to the EU!?!?
I want to KNOW that my calendar, contacts, memos, etc, are all backed up at ALL times!

Besides - which would you rather do during a "cattle-car" class flight:
Unpack a laptop and tether up my smartphone via USB to download videos or hours of audio books, or pop in a preloaded card???

And make sure it is passed through as a USB mass storage device.

RE: There's a card slot
mikecane @ 1/9/2009 6:57:56 AM # Q
I do not see any card slot in Palm's own spec sheet. Does anyone?

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nosoupforyou @ 1/10/2009 4:04:22 PM # Q
Completely agree about needing an SD card slot, that's the only limitation of this device, it seems to have every feature I could dream of and I don't want to be limited by my memory. Especially with these new SDXC cards coming out!

Someone who has contact with someone of status from Palm, PLEASE bring this up!

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Anyone notice this?

vorlon @ 1/8/2009 3:19:04 PM # Q
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SeldomVisitor @ 1/8/2009 3:26:07 PM # Q
That's funny!

(Newport Beach Public Library?)

RE: Anyone notice this?
vetdoctor @ 1/8/2009 4:42:00 PM # Q
Maybe VoR is Ed....?

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