Big Price Drop on Kyocera 6035 Smartphone

There has been a huge drop in price for the Kyocera 6035 smartphone. It is now available from CompUSA and several other stores for just $100 with a service plan. Sprint is selling it for $150.

The Kyocera QCP 6035 was released a year ago and it is possible the company has dropped the price because it is getting ready to release an updated version. CeBIT starts in a couple of weeks and that's a popular place to announce new products.

The 6035 has a monochrome screen and 8 MB of RAM. It runs Palm OS 3.5.1 and uses the CDMA wireless standard.

When it was released, the 6035 had little or no competition from other Palm OS smartphones. Now, however, it is facing the Samsung I300, which has a color screen, and the Handspring Treo, which is significantly smaller. With this price drop, the 6035 is now much less expensive than either of these.

Thanks to Branko for the tip. -Ed

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Nice to see the market growing, but....

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/3/2002 9:10:12 AM #
It's great to see that the market for PDA/Phones is getting larger and more competitive... But I'd still like to see a company make a bigger push in the Canadian market.

I've never seen a PalmOS phone in ANY store in Winnipeg, Edmonton, or Calgary. The only time I've seen a PalmOS Phone was a Qualcomm one that someone ordered over the net.

It's really too bad, because Rogers, Telus, and Bell up here seem to be pushing the great PIM features of all the new Nokias, Motorolas, Ericssons et al...

Maybe I'll stop bitching if I get my hands on a bluetooth phone and Sony releases their bluetooth accessory for the Clie that they promised months ago.

RE: Nice to see the market growing, but....
peter167 @ 3/3/2002 10:52:21 AM #
Hate to say this, since I live in Canada, the market is not worth to take on in here.

First, Canada is the largest country (e.g. no USSR) but has only 30 million people. I mean, you can find some countries with 30 million people at about one fifth of the size of Canada, with the same level of living standard.

Yes, Canada is very close to the states. But most of the time, we cannot see high tech things coming across the border. It is very sad. It will not change much until the population here in Canada can double or even triple.

Lie is the future.

RE: Nice to see the market growing, but....
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/3/2002 12:09:50 PM #
Which Cave do you live? I see the Kyocera phone at Bell World stores and Telus stores all the time. They both carry the phone (at a premium).


I.M. Anonymous @ 3/3/2002 11:22:58 AM #
There's no way they're pulling a profit on that one. They're either releasing a new one or cutting and running.

RE: $100!?
GregGaub @ 3/3/2002 12:29:05 PM #
Dude, the profit is not in the phone, it's in the service. Ever hear of those phones you get for a penny? You get the phone free many times because of the year (or two) contract for service that you sign. Since you'll be spending upwards of $500 per year for service, the actual cost of the phone is unimportant, especially since most people don't switch to another service even AFTER their contract expired.

RE: $100!?
pontif @ 3/3/2002 12:46:57 PM #
Typically with a new activation the carrier pays between $150 and $250 towards the cost of the new phone. That means Kyocera is actually getting between $250 and $350 for the unit. (Check the "without new activation" price to be certain.)


Fzara2000 @ 3/3/2002 2:23:30 PM #
Interesting, but I am never going back to a monoscreen Palm again. My M500 was torture, compared to the 10th grader in my C++ class with the Sony Clie with 160X160 resolution screen. (I've never seen the 320 X 320 screen before, maybe I should get out more). I hope no one buys this phone, and somehow, I hope Handspring doesn't get alot of money for their Treo. I hope buisness leaders will realize that color screens with the internet are just alot better (*hint*Samsung*hint*), and worth more.
My 2 cents

Palm sucks!
My M500 is horrible!

RE: Interesting
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/3/2002 3:01:51 PM #
When I was in 10th grade, I learned Pascal on a 286 machine running DOS. Some of the machines were 386s. Once I used a 386, I swore I would never go back. But then, it didn't fit in my pocket, either.

RE: Interesting
crustyedgeofinnovation @ 3/3/2002 4:26:12 PM #
Nice to see you back Fzara2000, and as usually you have nothing good or usefull to say... Keep up the bad work, bozo....

RE: Interesting
pontif @ 3/3/2002 5:05:38 PM #
Hay, when I was in 10th grade I built a computer using an 8080 CPU with external clock and bus chips, etc. and 8 individual 2k ram chips. All using wirewrap. And it was state of the art. (Ok, I'm old.) A year or two later I got a TRS-80 Model 1 and thought it was great.

RE: Interesting
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/3/2002 6:40:58 PM #
look whos talking Crusty the clown

RE: Interesting
Scott @ 3/3/2002 7:18:13 PM #
"I hope no one buys this phone, and somehow, I hope Handspring doesn't get alot of money for their Treo. I hope buisness leaders will realize that color screens with the internet are just alot better (*hint*Samsung*hint*), and worth more."

Yes, I'd much rather that the only choices out there were $500 color smartphones. I hope no one buys $100 B&W smartphones. Huh? I own a Samsung i300. The color quality is poor, but the improvement in readability (that comes with a bright color screen) is significantly better. That said, I think the 6035 was a better smartphone. I'd like to see more color choices as well, since I'd be willing to pay extra for it. But, I sure hope manufacturers don't stop making B&W devices if it means that $100 PDAs and smartphones become history.


When I was in 10th grade
drw @ 3/3/2002 8:16:26 PM #
Precious few geeks were allowed access to the "computer room" which was a closet with a tele-typwriter and phone coupler modem. Once connected to the University of Texas computer we had access to a BASIC compiler. My "handheld" was a texas instruments calculator.

David in Pflugerville, TX
RE: Interesting
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/4/2002 12:34:55 AM #
When I was in 10th grade, I was programming in Pascal on the Apple II at school and in BASIC on the VIC-20 at home.

Figures some Clie-head has to go and post about how great their hi-end Clie is in a news item about a great price on a Palm OS phone. You're the one who is in 10th grade right? Grow up.

Let me test my understanding...
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/4/2002 8:15:45 AM #
Palm offered both a color device and a greyscale device.

You bought the greyscale device without bothering to even look at the other choices on the market.

Then you saw a color device and decided it was better.

And based on this you say -PALM- sucks?

Better check your direction of suckage.

RE: Interesting
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/4/2002 1:16:42 PM #
Umm, actually I did look at the color devices, but they were very expensive. I thought the M500 was alot better, and I had also heard from my friend that the M505 was not a good PDA. And then I looked at the prism, and I hated handspring, so I said **** it.

RE: Interesting
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/4/2002 1:18:08 PM #
In addition, I think Palm has no innovative strengths. Go with sony instead. At least they don't release a new model every year that has only 1 update.

price cuts

drw @ 3/3/2002 8:21:36 PM #
I paid $499 for my 6035 last May. Hard to say if I could have waited 10 months to save $399. More likely I would have to wait additional months for either the coming I-330 or the coming color 6055. (forget about treo till they do CDMA.. how dare handspring release a smartphone in europe before the states..)

David in Pflugerville, TX
RE: price cuts
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/3/2002 8:49:21 PM #
Why shouldn't Handspring release its new models in Europe first? The whole continent is using a unified system (GSM) which is far superior than the mix-and-match systems in the US and Canada. Innovation flows to where the infrastructure best supports it, and in this case I'm not surprised at all that Europe was a primary market. Also - most European countries have 50% or higher mobile phone density, which means that the level of interest in new things is higher than in other regions of the world.



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