New ALP Details and Screenshots
ACCESS has posted new official screenshots of ACCESS Linux Platform v1.0 and new details on ALP. The OS is optimized for a 240x320 display but will also be able to support HVGA 320x480 and WVGA 800x480 sizes. There is also a list of native apps that will ship with ALP and a Windows based desktop syncing program. In addition, a 200 MHz ARM 9 chip is the minimum requirement but ACCESS recommends using a 400 MHz ARM 9 or greater applications processor. The company has yet to announce a licensee for the platform.
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Native ALP Applications
- All native ACCESS proprietary applications support inter-application communications for data interchange
- Phone
- Contacts
- Calendar
- Memos
- Tasks
- HotSync®
- NetFront™ Browser
- HandMail™ (available 2Q2007)
- SMS+
- iMessenger™
- Music
- Video
- Photos & Studio
- Camera
- Documents (available 2Q2007)
- Utilities (Clock, Calculator, Recorder, Home Screen, Flight Mode)
Networking and Communication support
- Includes a modern and robust connection manager capable of handling multiple simultaneous connections
- TCP/IP
- WiFi (802.11g)
- Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR
- USB
- IrDA
- Serial
Desktop and Sync software
- Manage personal information on a Windows XP desktop computer to add, edit or delete contact records, calendar events, memos and tasks and synchronize using HotSync software, which now supports OMA DS v1.2 (SyncML)
- Backup and restore information between the device and desktop as well as install native, Garnet OS, Java applications and media files with HotSync
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RE: Uh...
RE: Uh...
Palm m125 > Palm Zire 71 > Tapwave Zodiac 1 > Palm Zire 72 > Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 + 4gb MicroDrive + Palm Tungsten T|3 (1100mah)
My T|3 is too [i]sexy[/i] for me.
RE: Uh...
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> There's more than one?
Q.E.D.
Giggle.
Access stole my GUI
http://www.pocketfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/palmos-mockup-new-interface.jpg
I demand royalties!
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RE: Access stole my GUI
Thinking about Vista? Think again: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
RE: Access stole my GUI
I suggest a mud wrestling contest to settle this.
RE: Access stole my GUI
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RE: Access stole my GUI
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Looks nice
Palm TX + 1GB SD + Motorola v3x = awesomeness
This screenshot looks better
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/12/access-linux-platform-on-display-at-3gsm/
RE: This screenshot looks better
Starting behind again I see
This is getting better. The prove will be if the vaporware ever condense into 'actual'-ware...sometime before our Sun expands into a Red Giant...
They still smell like a buck short and a dollar late...
US Robotics Pilot 5000 -> 3Com Palm III -> Sony Cile N710C -> Sony Clie T615C -> Palm LifeDrive
RE: Starting behind again I see
And no word about WiMAX !! ( IEEE 802.16 )
WiMAX is an essential part of the future! In less than one year from today,
every mobile device will have WiMAX capability.
WiMAX allows nationwide coverage of wireless network, no more searching for the nearest coffee place to find a hotspot!
RE: Starting behind again I see
The n standard has yet to be ratified, and, more to the point, has yet to be finalized in terms of its precise specifications and methods of transmission/operation. We are still at least a year away from seeing actual n ratified/standardized equipment, maybe longer.
And yes, that's right: the fancy pre-n or draft-n equipment they are currently charging a premium for? The stuff you are prone to see at Bestbuy or Circuit City or hawked on amazon? Less than even odds that most of it is going to be fully interoperable with the true n standard once it comes out -- if lucky, it will be able to stage it down to g. If lucky. And even if it does somehow handle the final n standard (perhaps with the aid of a firmware up) it isn't going to take full advantage of it.
Access is not only being rational about not grabbing the n standard (more for the reason of its pointless in terms of bandwidth demand), but it's also being ethical, because to claim that it is actually coding n compatibility would be a lie at this stage.
Your best bet? Grab a g with Mimo and don't believe the hype.
iMessenger lives!
RE: iMessenger lives!
David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog
RE: What, no 320x320 support?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0471089656/
Taking this CLASSIC excerpt to the next level:
Access are well-positioned to make headway with "larger screens for palmtops". The question, of course, is whether ANY of their numerous licensees will jump onboard for 800x480 support. Heck, 320x480 would be a huge improvement over the current small square 320x320 on current POS Treos. Of course, any "modern" resolution is better than the (depressingly) one-step-backwards 240x320 for which Access are oddly intent on touting their "optimizing".
Is this (WinMob6 launch + ALP tidbits) what it will take to FINALLY get "larger screens for palmtops" on a PALMtop device? Couldn't we at least get a physically larger 320x320 LCD?
Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P
RE: What, no 320x320 support?
MS did the same thing when the developed the UMPC: use off-the-shelf components to drive down the cost. Unfortunately, theory met reality and those $500-$900 UMPCs became $1,000+!
I'd like to see at least *one* ALP device released in the US just so I can fondle, if not thoroughly molest, it!
RE: What, no 320x320 support?
Supported Platforms
To date, libsqlfs is tested on 32-bit i386 GNU/Linux (Ubnutu 5.04) and StrongArm (Treo 650 phone) Access Linux Platform.
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Source: http://www.nongnu.org/libsqlfs/
This is taken from the page of libsqlfs, an open source component developed for ALP.
They tested it on a Treo 650 WITH ALP.
Besides, the resolution issues are trivial. It depends more on the people who design the graphics for the UI. The width and height of a screen are just variables.
At least it's a complete solution
It looks like they are taking a note from Apple (hopefully) and shipping something that "just works". Now let's see who'll sign up and provide the hardware.
RE: At least it's a complete solution
It's complete in one sense, but from a developer standpoint it looks like a really nice platform to innovate on, too.
David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog
Little too late
I remember the day we joked about Windows CE devices here when they came out and I never imagined a day like this for Palm users. All we have are Treo's that are big, imagine if Palm never made the deal with Handspring. It would be very different today I think for us Palm users. Honestly, it's been hard being a PDA user and switching devices to find that perfect match. Maybe it's time to try a Blackberry 8800 or iPhone...
RE: Little too late
I keep wondering, has anyone heard of Asia? It was "discovered" quite a few years ago, so I would have thought Americans would have heard of it by now. It's a "decent" sized market for mobile devices.
Thinking about Vista? Think again: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
Minority?
Being a Palm user since '98 I can't say I'm happy with where the platform is today but I think this is a positive step forward and should open up some doors in the near future. Sure Palm is currently in a position of playing catch-up but if WinMob 6 is anything like WinMob 5, and ALP can bring the "Palm zen" to meet modern day expectations and requirements, I think Palm has a good chance of turning the ship around. My Treo 650 is about 2 years old now (might even be older, I can't remember) but it still does everything I need it to do. In that time several of my more geeky friends have gone threw more than a couple WinMob devices while the trusty Palm keeps on ticking. Considering the Treo spends 6-7 months out of the year in motorcycle tank bags, tossed in with scuba gear, and quite a few camping trips, I'd have to say it has taken its fair share of abuse.
To ACCESS I say bravo and, it's about time!
--Dave
RE: Minority?
While I'm of the opinion that ALP will not be the only successor to the Palm OS out there, I do think it holds promise as the successor that could do the most to bring the Palm OS experience (broadly speaking) to a global audience. As a developer I'm looking forward to working with ALP.
David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog
RE: Minority?
Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. Aaron Levenstein
RE: Minority?
Also, if Palm had an interest in ALP don't you think they would have wanted to throw ACCESS a bone with a little PR buzz when there have been ALP press releases? Sure would have been a nice way for Palm to respond to questions about the future of Palm OS if they considered ALP to be their future. Instead, they've been dead quiet.
It's disappointing in one respect, but there is a potential silver lining. Notice how ACCESS is using the term "Garnet VM" ("Virtual Machine") to refer to their Palm OS emulator now? Just like the "Java VM" that is on practically every phone made? The idea that they are trying to convey, I think, is that Garnet is becoming an application execution environment that can run on multiple platforms, as opposed to being an OS unto itself. It can be part of ALP, but it can be part of other Linux platforms, or even WinCE or Symbian with some work. Compared to Java, Garnet is extremely powerful, though, with lots of access to low-level system APIs (possibly more than ever before, now that it's running on Linux). While I don't by any stretch of the imagination think Garnet is going to be taking over the world like Java ME has, even having it run on two major platforms (ALP and a next-generation OS from Palm) may be a good thing for a lot of users and developers. Giving the Palm OS ecosystem a shot in the arm will benefit both platforms in their initial adoption. Eventually the Garnet VM will become less and less important, but it has the potential of being a more powerful transitional force when it is seen as a multi-platform, multi-vendor environment than as being unique to just one vendor.
Will this strategy succeed? I'm not sure, but it's certainly an interesting development (assuming I'm right about this being what is developing!)
David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog
RE: Minority?
if Palm had an interest in ALP don't you think they would have wanted to throw ACCESS a bone with a little PR buzz
That would depend on the level of interest. If they were evaluating ALP but uncertain they wouldn't want to reveal anything. If they were certain but didn't want to unsettle the stockmarket with confusion the wouldn't wnat to reveal anything.
There's no win in admiting you're evaluating something and plenty of opportunity for the info to backfire on you.
May You Live in Interesting Times
RE: Minority?
Which "PalmOS" do you mean? What ACCESS has isn't "PalmOS" as we've known it, other than the Garnet emulation. And won't "their" Garnet have the same irritating limitations as "our" Garnet? And will "their" Garnet be able to take advantage of things like FontSmoother, et al, that add/change things?
Motorola - Future Provider of Great ALP Devices?
- bid for PalmSource
- produce Linux smartphones
- are platform agnostic e.g. they have just announced a Symbian phone but use Linux and WinMobile too.
then their using ALP seems a very rational, logical prospect.
Finally the Palm community will have a manufacturer who will have a Garnet OS on decent devices without having to wait for the painfully slow Palm.
RE: Motorola - Future Provider of Great ALP Devices?
David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog
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Uh...
That is to say, PALM has shown zero interest in ALP as they have shown zero interest in Symbian, suggesting that ALP be accorded the same article space as...Symbian.