Comments on: Colligan: No More Palm OS Based Products
Making official what has been expected for some time, Palm CEO Ed Colligan remarked today at an investor conference that Palm will not release any more Palm OS based products. His actual words were:
"We will transition to WebOS as our core operating system and will continue to support Windows Mobile products for the enterprise market. "
He also went on to say that Palm wants to focus on "fewer really innovative breakthrough products" in order to innovate better, and he also stated they are working on a robust roadmap of products based on WebOS due in the years to come.
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RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
The last known classic PDA user.
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
Let's see, twrock, Gekko, and ... yeah, that's a big market.
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
No, his actual words were exactly as in the Subject of this thread, that's why there are quotes around the Subject.
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
i better load up on Centros! how many do you think i'll need to get me through the next decade?
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*ahem* *cough*
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PalmPilot Pro (1997) -> III (1998) -> Vx (1999) -> m500 (2001) -> m515 (2002) -> Tx (2007)
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
Albeit a little sad - Palm OS has served me very faithfully these last five years. R.I.P. mate. Palm will finally stop re-animating your twitching corpse and let you get the eternal sleep you deserve...
Tim
I apologise for any and all emoticons that appear in my posts. You may shoot them on sight.
Treo 270 -> Treo 650 -> Treo 680 -> Centro
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
Product "line"?!!?
Anyway, Abcess is the one with the built-in Garnet emulator, right? It's what those 4 want.
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
Indeed.
ACCESS-the main architect of Japan's i.mode system, by the way-has got a global installed base, total, of over 600 million devices, in aggregate, comprising well over 1500 individual models, everything from cell phones to set-top boxes to panel televisions to electronic piano keyboards. Those numbers are growing all the time. We supply a wide variety of software solutions from browsers for constrained-resource devices on a variety of platforms to high-speed, high-capacity DLNA routing infrastructure.
Thanks for demonstrating so promptly how thoroughly accurate my observations of your near-total ignorance are, Mikey. No surprise, but it's nice to have the validation.
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
"NO MORE PalmOS products......EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!" (bitch-slaps MikeCon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ8G6umepTE
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
WRONG!! So very wrong, freakout. Now I wonder: why did they spend $44 million on a perpetual Garnet license? ( http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9137/palm-signs-perpetual-license-for-palm-os-garnet/ )
Was it just to shore up stability on the Centro? Or was Garnet emulation a planned webOS feature that was jettisoned in order to give them a totally fresh start?
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
We can assume AT THE TIME that Palm also was thinking PalmOS for the far future, right or wrong, making the already-MAJOR-FINANCIAL-WIN perpetual license even better.
Of course, since that already-major-win had made its already-instantiated-payoff, Palm changed their mind about PalmOS.
But by then it didn't matter - they had already saved millions of dollars.
I personally do not think the decision to stop saving oodles of bucks on OS costs by not using PalmOS had anything to do with the Pre or its purported OS. Instead, they simply decided "Okay, we don't need it anymore" and that was that.
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
Still: Where's the beef when it comes to PRODUCTS WE USE HERE?
It must be a great feeling for you to pass a toy keyboard in a cheap store and know you've made such a thrilling contribution to the human race. I guess as long as there's a China to crank out crap, Abcess will survive. Not YOU, but Abcess.
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
Most people decide to stop displaying their ignorance once it's been pointed out to them a couple of times. Not Mikey.
Persistent, or just a slow learner? You decide!
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
http://www.productshub.com/TracFone-Nokia-1100/
So, technically, he's probably NOT using an Access Netfront-based browser since that phone doesn't even HAVE a browser! And PDA-wise I think he has a LifeDrive with its crash-prone version of Blazer 4.3 onboard...looks like he really did "get" ya on that one!
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->?
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RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
Mikey continues not to get it.
We're not a direct-to-consumer business, never have been. I don't think we're ever likely to be, given the support burden which that entails. We don't push our "brand identity", we assist our customers and licensees to promote theirs, through customization, operator packs (such as the ones we're providing to Orange, DoCoMo and others), and so forth. That's why field engineering is such a large part of our organization, and why we have engineering offices in every geography where cell phones are made.
You'd really come off looking a lot better if you did even a tiny bit of research before you start spraying flecks of spittle all over your keyboard. As it is, you simply seem both childish and churlish...
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
How's a guy get a (completely unmerited) reputation (of sorts) for writing about technology when he doesn't actually own any? I wouldn't think that drooling on other people's stuff was really a substitute...
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
Mike: Fact, fact, insult, insult, insult, insult, surprising remark!
Lefty: Insult, fact, fact, insult, insult, insult.
Mike: Insult, insult, insult.
Lefty: Insult, insult, insult, insult.
Mike: Insult.
-Bosco
m105 -> NX70v -> NX80v -> iPhone -> iPhone 3G
RE: 'No more PalmOS products'
I might buy one more, in case they run out of Palm OS devices. I need one beside me in my grave !!.
;-)
Pilot 1000 >> Centro >>
...and in other news, water is wet.
I really don't get it. What's the point of putting out a new OS if you're going to keep pumping out devices with the old OS?
How many POS 4 devices has Palm released this year? Anyone...?
RE: ...and in other news, water is wet.
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PalmPilot Pro (1997) -> III (1998) -> Vx (1999) -> m500 (2001) -> m515 (2002) -> Tx (2007)
Who was first? the egg or the gen?
Why not PalmOS 7 or WebOS Inc...?
Move along, nothing to see here....
PalmOS was designed way back in 1996. Its aim was to provide a simple, intuitive way to manipulate data on a PDA. It was very good at that; it was not designed with music, video, phone or the web in mind. That stuff came along later.
Over the years they have tried to graft these functions on to it, but the result has been a loss of the simplicity that made PalmOS useful in the first place. I would go as far as to say a multitasking PalmOS is no PalmOS at all. Whether Palm/Palm Inc/PalmOne/Palmsource lost their way or whether the public lost interest in their products is debatable, but they have not been innovating much lately - the last generation of pure PDAs (TX and Lifedrive) were afterthoughts with no real innovation behind them.
Requirements have changed, our needs have changed, and PalmOS could not, or would not, keep up. Their lack of support and direction over the years (for how many years have they been teasing us with PalmOS6?) has left me wondering when they would finally bow to the inevitable and shoot this dawg.
Before you label me as a "hater", know this: I have a T3 and am very happy with it; I have no plans to upgrade to a later machine. Milady has a TX and loves it, though I am not too impressed (no "stretch" screen, no collapsible case, no voice recorder...). I'll probably buy another T3 so I have a spare.
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk?
Palm Affrontery
Bravo, Colligan!
this is a stake in the heart of all PDA users who are still stuck in the past. hopefully this move helps drag them into this century.
RE: Bravo, Colligan!
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RE: Bravo, Colligan!
You'd do better stocking up via ebay.
RE: Bravo, Colligan!
Uh..Not really. Nothing from Palm in this "century" does what my TX does. All Colligan has done is move me away from buying any Palm products in the future. Don't need a cute little phone for what I want to do.
The last known classic PDA user.
RE: Bravo, Colligan!
RE: Bravo, Colligan!
He's a cholesterol-laden forty-something (he looks older), working his way down to three.
With some significant success, I might add.
RE: Bravo, Colligan!
Heh. What exactly are you talking about, Mikey? In our tests, compatibility with legacy applications is well about 90%.
RE: Bravo, Colligan!
RE: Bravo, Colligan!
RE: Bravo, Colligan!
The usual suspects in this sort of situation: attempting to use hardware directly, relying on undocumented "features", being generally less than "well-behaved". No, there's not a laundry list...
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