Exchange Files and Info with Pocket PCs

Posted By: Ed Thursday, September 27, 2001 5:19:06 PM

SoDeog Technologies has released SyncTalk Professional FX, which lets Palm OS and PPC handhelds and Windows 2000 computers wirelessly exchange files of any type. While files of many types can't be opened on the handheld, it can be used as a portable hard drive. This is on top of SyncTalk's previous ability to wirelessly exchange Address Book, Date Book, and Memo Pad entries with handhelds and laptops with Pocket PC or Windows 2000 that are also running the app. SyncTalk Professional FX is $50.

Files can be beamed to any other device running the application. This includes files in any format: Word, PowerPoint, Excel, photos, PDF, MP3 and much more.

The SyncTalk platform currently supports infrared, but will expand into wireless Internet (TCP/IP) and Bluetooth as those technologies penetrate the market.

"SyncTalk Professional FX has the power to transform the way we do business in a mobile society," says Ryan Walcott, President of SoDeog Technologies. "Mobile professionals have been walking around with memory in their pockets and no way to use it. SyncTalk FX puts that available memory to use by allowing you to transport a variety of files anywhere and share them with anyone."

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All devices?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2001 5:25:23 PM #

Do the other devices need SyncTalk Professional FX?

RE: All devices?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2001 5:38:46 PM #

Paragraph 2:
"Files can be beamed to any other device running the application."

Application Compatibility

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2001 5:58:24 PM #

Now all we need is the functionality to convert WordSmith docs to PocketWord and back, as well as MiniCalc to PocketExcel and back! That'd be a product worth looking at...

RE: Application Compatibility

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2001 6:13:49 PM #

WordSmith produces rtf format - pretty easy for PPC to read - but MS abandoned this platform neutral fileformat for sake of their own WORD marker:-((
Via rtf we convert on a por level files between Mac & PC since years - should be easy enough for our smaller companions though...

Title

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2001 6:31:00 PM #

A sign of things to come?

Why can't we all just play together

skoty @ 9/27/2001 6:24:36 PM #

Thats really nice that you can now trade just about any forms of data out there between Windows and the rest of the computing world.

It's kind of interesting how that distinction has to always be made... Windows and the rest of the world. When Palms first started appearing with IR ports, they followed the Object Exchange Protocal that was defined by IrDA (www.irda.com) and things just worked. When WindowsCE came out they apparently didn't want to play nice with the other children and you couldn't communicate with IrDA compliant IR devices (without 3rd party software). I think that most WindowsCE devices now ship with this third party software bundled in it. Compaq and the like got tired of their cusotmers complaints that they couldn't communicate with PalmOS devices.

Yet another reason why NOT to buy a Pocket PC.

RE: Why can't we all just play together

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/27/2001 8:55:21 PM #

What? Is there a reason to buy a PocketPC ??!! jeje...

RE: Why can't we all just play together

mikecane @ 9/28/2001 9:38:39 AM #

Just to set the facts straight... PPC 2002 is now OBEX (IrDA) compatible and can beam to/from PalmOS devices out of the box. However, this does not seem to be 100% compatibility in terms of what a PalmOS device can do via IR with another PalmOS device. For instance, you cannot beam an entire Category of Memos to a PPC 2002 device. For that, Peacemaker Pro is still a required purchase.

RE: Why can't we all just play together

Altema @ 9/28/2001 10:15:36 AM #

From personal experience, I've been able to beam contacts, memos, and appointments, but just one at a time. I have not been able to beam entire categories, as Mike already mentioned.

RE: Why can't we all just play together

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2001 1:23:57 PM #

Eh, who care, by the time Genio is out, a real universal Palm emulator for ppc is done so there is no need to carry a palm. THis will save plenty of money on accessory since all CFII are standart and itnerchangable with laptop.

The size of genio is slightly larger than CLie and smaller than Prism.

http://www.pdafrance.com/dossiers/
toshiba2001/toshiba01.html

RE: Why can't we all just play together

skoty @ 9/28/2001 3:04:12 PM #

Of course if Microsoft sticks to their guns, they will deliberatley not support the Bluetooth standard or the 802.11 standard, or other wireless standards. This will be the case until enough people complain or 3rd party software is again bundled with their devices to make them "play nice" with others.

Again the distinction always has to be made between "Microsoft and the rest of the world."

Way need a program on both?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2001 12:08:44 AM #

Why can't someone make a program for the Palm, CE and so on that will send data and receve data in the formmat that the other device can understand?

Example! If user A has a CE device and user B has a CE device then thay can beam back and forth appointments, addresses and so on with no problem!

So.... Whay can't you run a program on your Palm and it simple beam one of it's appointments, addresses (etc.) in the format (I.R. protocall) that the CE device can understand it in?

Whay should I depend on the other device MUST have the same program that I have to beam data?

Same for the other direction! If a CE user get's this program for his CE device then it would have the ability to beam in the format that a Palm can understand without any other software!

What's the big deal here guys?

I must be missing something!

Bobby

RE: Way need a program on both?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2001 12:36:25 AM #

Try to run a Windows game on a Macintosh. It doesn't work. The CPU's architecture are much different between Palm's and PPC's, and thus you cannot exchange data and use it. The program/application must be written to accept a beam, read the data from it, and post it onto the screen for each device. The Mac and Windows example is a perfect demonstration.

RE: Way need a program on both?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2001 1:05:03 AM #

I believe PPC 2002 can beam addresses etc with a Palm without any appies to help it.

RE: Way need a program on both?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/28/2001 7:46:05 AM #

It can be done. HanDbase database files can be beamed between a PPC and Palm. I'm sure it's not an easy task because the databases can't be the same on both devices.

I'm curious what the future holds in this regard, though. Next year PPC and Palm will basically have the same architecture, give or take some different buttons on the machines. At that point, do you think these issues will go away or become more pronounced? (Knowing Microsoft, I would bet we can assume the latter).

JBH

RE: Way need a program on both?

N473 @ 9/28/2001 3:55:24 PM #

This is possible. It is not the same as running a Mac game (those exist? [;)]), the poster was talking about beaming data, not binary compiled applications. Example, you can open a text file, a jpeg image, or a Word document on a Mac or a PC. There are inconsistencies, like the EOL character is different between the two platforms, but any good text editor can compensate.

Cheers!
N473
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