Quickies: RhinoSkin, Bluetooth SD Card, Qvadis Library

RhinoSkin will begin offering a Molded Titanium Hardcase for the m500/m505/V on November 12 for $100. -Ed

Palm brought its Bluetooth SD card to the SyncFest in San Francisco over the weekend and someone from the Sacramento PUG snapped a couple of pictures. Palm has promised to release this card by the end of the year. -nXt

The Qvadis eBook Library now offers over 5,000 e-text titles, all available for free. It is made up of the original Qvadis collectio with MemoWare's Doc archive, and is currently the largest archive of free e-texts for Palm Powered handhelds. Titles range from classic and contemporary works, from Shakespeare's plays to Henry David Thoreau's "Walden", from Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" to travel ebooks on major world cities for mobile business professionals. -PR

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On bluetooth and storage

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 7:45:54 AM #
If you are using the bluetooth module, where will you store files? I just find it ironic creating something to access the network without an expansion memory.

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 7:52:12 AM #
Perhaps the memory module will have bluetooth as well :-)

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 8:08:30 AM #
i was thinking the same thing last night. If i have a BT card in the slot, what/where am i supposed to do/put the SD card?
May be, just may be, the BT might have memory capacity but i doubt that. Besides, where are all the phones that can use the BT feature. So far in the US, i haven't seen any.
Talk about creating solutions to problems that haven't been made :)

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 8:15:34 AM #
You could store your files on your network. You'll have access to it through the Bluetooth card. If you're away from your network, switch the Bluetooth card out for a storage card.

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 8:31:15 AM #
So here is an application idea: A new VFS that read file via bluetooth connection. In this way, files over bluetooth network look the same as in local memory card. The problem of this idea is that the file transmission may be very slow...

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 10:52:29 AM #
"Besides, where are all the phones that can use the BT feature. So far in the US, i haven't seen any."

So just because you haven't seen any there aren't any? Ericsson T39, Ericsson T68, soon also the Nokia 6310, and then there is the bluetooth pack for the Nokia 6210. It is funny that I've been using a bluetooth phone for over a month (long time when it comes to tech like this) and then some moron comes along and claims there are no bluetooth phones.

And yes there are not many bluetooth phones in the us, that's because the us mobile market sucks. Import if you want to stay up to date, but don't b*tch if you're running behind.

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 11:15:24 AM #
t39 rocks with the hbh10 BT headset i'm the hippist dude in the room. next trip to france i'll pick up a cheap 380s and try to find the t68 while i'm at it. bluetooth is cool

RE: On bluetooth and storage
Xian @ 10/30/2001 1:02:01 PM #
I wish I had a T39 *sob*
Oh well, I'll manage with my T28 World with Bluetooth adapter.

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 2:01:38 PM #
"So just because you haven't seen any there aren't any?"

The person who posted it mentioned 'IN THE US'. Those phones you identified are not sold in the US.

PS: Why do you have to use the word like 'moron'?

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 2:28:34 PM #
Verizon has a Motorola Timeport 270c phone for $399 that does bluetooth in the US. There no reason for calling ppl names. You think you are so superior? One month? I imported an r520 4 months ago and imported a bluetooth device for my Clie from Japan. But I do alot of international travel and most of my fellow Americans aren't aware of the products avaliable internationally. So stuff your "moron", its not called for. For everyone else, I love using bluetooth and the attachment for the Clie attaches to the bottom of the unit so the mem stick can still be used. However, its buggy. The phone crashes and so does my palm and Sony customer support (here and in Singapore) is totally useless. Its definately not a perfected technology yet. The signal between my phone and Clie dies randomly as as well. Frankly, I got the phone because I needed a phone that does SMS and the r520 was the best choice for the money/features the bluetooth was a bonus.

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 5:33:36 PM #
I'm in Colorado, and I've been using the t39 for over a month, myself, with VoiceStream. Picked it up off of a retailer on eBay for $250. Great phone, and the retailer was very reputable.

Maybe the major cellular services aren't selling bluetooth phones *YET*, but you can DEFINITELY purchase these phone in the US right now from retailers.

RE: On bluetooth and storage
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/31/2001 6:09:19 AM #
I've had a T39 for three months now, and I've been using bluetooth since January (had a T28 world with a bluetooth plug)... so don't say there arn't any bt phones.
Ericsson has three models with BT:
R520 (been avalibel since April)
T39 (since July)
T68 (just released)
And the bluetooth plug that adds bt functionality to ANY recent ericsson phone..
Nokia has a bluetooth battery for the 6150 and they're about to come out with a version with built in bt.. and I'm sure Motorola etc will follow..

Bluetooth Mobile Phones
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/1/2001 4:51:34 AM #
Where to buy WIRELESS GEAR?


REVIEW: Bluetooth Internet Access with a Mobile Phone
Posted by Arne Hess


Final Conclusion

All together, it works easier than I thought at all. From my point of view I was a little bit afraid, that all the connection types aren't interoperable and incompatible. But it was only one click that the Pocket PC recognize the mobile phone by Bluetooth and 3 taps more (the first time only) to connect the Internet wireless with a unwired connection between the Pocket PC and the mobile phone.

I see a bright future for Bluetooth, hopefully we will see more mobile phones and integrated Pocket PCs soon! Till than the AnyCom card seems to work perfect for me. Another question isn't answered after half day testing: how long will the battery works with Bluetooth and is there a battery drain. I will observer this within the next days. Also I can compare how the PC card work against the CF card.


REVIEW: Bluetooth File Transfer
Posted by Arne Hess


Final Conclusion

File transfer works just perfect. I never accessed another Pocket PC or Notebook so easy as by using Bluetooth. It's just a tap to search the right devices and after you've got it, you can start copying files.
Unfortunately, ActiveSync* isn't supported right now, which means you can not use Bluetooth to synch your Pocket PC with your PC. I wonder if this will be implemented in a later version. From my point of view it would makes so much sense.

Anyhow, in this early days of Bluetooth this Bluetooth profile works just great and I'm sure all Bluetooth vendors are just working to enhance the possibilities and try to merge the transmission technology with the available services!


Lack Of Cell Phone Support Leaves Bluetooth On Hold

September 12, 2001 12:00am
CMP Media Inc.

EBN via NewsEdge Corporation : Forget about competition from 802.11 or other wireless protocols. Handset production hiccups are really what's holding up Bluetooth's growth.


Bluetooth will coexist with WLANs, says Forrester

The Nokia 6310 lets you connect around the corner with its integrated Bluetooth module. Supporting both data and audio connections, Bluetooth lets you to connect wirelessly to a compatible PC or any other Bluetooth-enabled device up to ten meters away. And you don't need a direct line of sight to make the connection with your PC - just leave it in your bag while you surf the Internet or check your email using the phone as a GSM modem! So now you can really cut the wires that tie you down.


Mobile Bluetooth Phones (Qualified):

Mobile Telephone T68m or T68mc Type 1130201-BV (T68m) or Type 1130201-CN (T68mc) Ericsson Mobile Communications AB Mobile phones PROD 2001-09-28
Triple band GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900 telephone with Bluetooth support

Ericsson T68
[Reference Code: ERIC_T68]

Price: £399.50 (340.00 exc.)
With Enliven24 Tariff: £164.50 (140.00 exc.)
See below for list of available BT Cellnet Enliven tariffs.
Stock Availability: In Stock
If you ordered this product before 3pm today, UK customers could expect delivery next working day.

T68 has it all. Bluetooth wireless technology that connects it to other devices without cables, GPRS (General Packet Radio Services) for instant and high speed mobile Internet access, a 256 colour display, and the latest and most advanced messaging application – MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service).

Business Customers: For information on discounts available for orders of 5+, or our enterprise support and insurance packages - please call Sasha or Jane on +44(0)161 868 0868.

This very small, powerful and sleek mobile phone with a completely new look and feel is developed for GSM 900/1800/1900 and GPRS networks and will be available before the end of 2001.

The T68 has built-in Bluetooth wireless technology that makes it possible to connect it to other devices without cables, for instance the Ericsson Bluetooth headset, a digital camera or a computer. It is the future standard for cablefree connectivity between devices and has been adopted by all the major computer and telecommunications companies.

The T68 supports General Packet Radio Services (GPRS), so users will enjoy 'always on' connectivity to the mobile Internet, with instant delivery of e-mail, high-speed Internet access and efficient mobile connections to corporate LANs.

Small - 101 x 48 x 19mm, and lightweight, weighing only 85 grams, T68 has a built-in antenna and a large 8 row, 256 color, display which opens up for exciting applications and user-friendly operation. The T68 will also support the latest and most advanced messaging application - MMS

Note: This phone is available SIM free and unlocked, you can use your existing SIM from Orange, One2One, Vodafone or BT Cellnet. If you require a contract with this phone, add the phone and one of the Enliven tariffs below to the basket.

- Large 256 Colour display
- Joystick navigation
- Image handling
- Enhanced Messaging service-EMS
- Multimedia Messaging Service-MMS
- Bluetooth
- WAP 1.2.1 TRI band HSCSD
- Calendar and organiser functions
- Predictive text input



Ericsson T68 Mobile Phone
Posted by Arne Hess

...I had an interesting talk with a former Ericsson employee today who was co-working on the T68 and he gave me some interesting additional information. The most, I was interested was the UI. Well, I already saw the phone on CeBIT however, I'm not able to remind the interface. But it was announced as a new kind of Ericsson interfaces, therefore I was interested most in this topic as I can imagine all other features.

He told me, that it mostly works with Windows kind of icons. You navigate with the joystick in the middle (the joystick is the most important UI change as the former well known "Yes"/"No" logic is gone now). But he also attests the display some weakness on outside use as the color display seems hard to be read. Hm... this is something I already know from somewhere - but where!? ;-)

However, I'm excited to get it and hold it on my hand. I want to use it's Bluetooth/GPRS feature and looks for the User Interface.


Mitsubishi Bluetooth (TM) Mobile Phone MT-3300G0R25 Mitsubishi Electric Corporation Mobile phones PROD 2001-09-26

PALDIO 633S SHP0006 SHARP Corporation Mobile phones PROD 2001-09-11

Mobile Telephone TM910 LG-TM910 LG Electronics Inc. Mobile phones PROD 2001-08-13

cdmaOne C413S PTX-600 Sony Corporation Mobile phones PROD 2001-05-22

Mobile Telephone T39m or T39mc Type: 1130102-BV (T39m) or 1130102-CN (T39mc) Ericsson Mobile Communications AB Mobile phones PROD 2001-05-15

Motorola Timeport 270 T270C Motorola Mobile phones PROD 2000-12-29 (now 1.1 spec qualified)

Mobile phone accessory:

Nokia has a Bluetooth Connectivity Battery for Nokia 6210 Mobile Phone

Motorola Bluetooth (TM) Phone Module II SYN8640A Motorola Mobile phone accessory Comp- Accessory 2001-09-28

Motorola Bluetooth (TM) Clip-on Accessory NNTN4175A Motorola Mobile phone accessory Comp- Accessory 2001-09-28

Motorola Bluetooth (TM) Phone Module SYN8705A Motorola Mobile phone accessory Comp-HW-Integrated 2001-09-28

Vianect blue Handsfree 85435 ELSA AG Mobile phone accessory PROD 2001-08-23
Bluetooth enabled handsfree for in car use


Alcatel is a Bluetooth™ early adopter and is developing Bluetooth™ solutions for its range of mobile phones. For more information on Bluetooth™ visit www.bluetooth.com.

Ericsson has the Bluetooth Phone Adapter DBA-10. Compatible Phones are:


Bluetooth Phone Adapter DBA-10

The Bluetooth™ Phone Adapter DBA-10 enables your mobile phone to communicate with other Bluetooth™ devices without cables. This unique product can be used with a Bluetooth™ Headset for voice calls (transmissions). It also enables wireless data transmission between your phone and any other mobile or stationary Bluetooth™ device. The versatile Bluetooth™ Phone Adapter is also a GSM modem allowing you to access Internet-based services while on the move


The Ericsson T60 offers a variety of handsfree and cable-free communication options, including the Ericsson Bluetooth(TM) headset and adapter, voice dialing and answering, and voice memo.

....we need more Bluetooth Phones, and we need them now!!!!!!



p.s If you buy a Bluetooth Product check if it's a BQP (Bluetooth Qualified Product) based on the Bluetooth 1.1 spec.

RE: On bluetooth and storage and t39's
I.M. Anonymous @ 2/16/2002 9:58:12 AM #
hi, I've got a t39 and am a bit peeved really because I just wasn't comfortable using the bluetooth functionality. I'm really not happy given I know someone who's got a bluetooth ipaq and somehow he used my phone to dial the net. I think it was an iPaq.

I don't care, I'm just really not happy with that, and I desperately am trying to get a new phone. I think I've secured one, but it leaved me with an unwanted t39 (slim battery though), if anyone wants it for around £180 (box and everything) just email me at sameen@usitmail.com and I'll discuss it with you.

Shame because I loved the battery life of the phone..absolutely fabulous.

Bluetooth SD card a bit tall?

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 10:24:35 AM #
Saw the image of this product - doesn't it seem terribly long? How are we going to use it while keeping our Palms in their cases? I want Bluetooth connectivity, but I certainly don't want an antenna-thingie sticking out the top!


Didn't we see this coming?

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 12:45:41 PM #
It's funny.
First people want to know when we're going to get bluetooth for our SD slots. When when when.

Then, once a picture is actually taken of one, the question finally arises. "Where will I put all my stuff?"

I don't think this should be a suprise to anyone. The SD slot is the only expansion for the M's except for the universal/serial port. So, if we don't want a sled, we loose our expansion slot.

Just highlighting the nitty-gritty.

The BT card Rocks!

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/30/2001 4:45:54 PM #
I've used the BT SD card for a while now, and in conjunction with all the BT devices I have in the office, works great. It works with both the R520 (which FYI has been discontinued!), and the T39. The BT PC card from Sunderland works a treat with it also - BT HotSync! I'm waiting on an Ericsson BLIP so I can try out the Network access side of things, but so far I'm impressed!

And yes, it does stick out a bit, but so do most other wireless devices. I use the Palm leather case so it's not a problem. Slot contention has not been a problem so far - but more on board memory would be nice...

The sub-$150 expected price tag has scored well with most people I've talked to about it - it's certainly cheaper than the BT sleds that are going around for the V series (Red-M, Sunderland, Tactel/TDK etc)

RE: The BT card Rocks!
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/31/2001 7:22:10 AM #
Will this card work in the M125? I have read that the BT SD card needs
PalmOS 4.1.

RE: The BT card Rocks!
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/31/2001 7:34:05 PM #
No, it doesn't need 4.1, it runs on 4.0

Bluetooth in Brazil Too

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/31/2001 12:28:17 AM #
I just arrived from the first nation wide PDA Show and Conference, and today, Palm CEO for Brazil, also showed us this LAST prototype, he told us it's the final version, but without the beautiful makeup.

No it does not have internal memory. And YES, it's a bit long, it stays out of the Palm, and a friend had that leather case with 4 slots for SD, and it sticks out of the case... So Palm will need to make new leather cases.

And he told us for xmas it will be at the stores, or even before.

Rio de Janeiro Palm Users Group Coordinator

Ericsson T29

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/12/2002 7:00:29 AM #



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