Comments on: Postmortem Palm Foleo Hands-On
They weren't too kind when it was still a living, breathing device – as a matter of fact they, along with the majority of the internet community, were downright scathing – but popular tech blog Engadget has managed to get their hands on Palm's doomed Mobile Companion, the hapless Foleo. A short review is pending, but in the meantime they’ve thrown up a gallery of pics, perusable here.
The oft-maligned Foleo was announced in May this year, to general derision from the Internet technocrati. The brainchild of Palm founder Jeff Hawkins, it was meant to spearhead a new Palm product line, but was instead ignominiously cancelled barely three months later. If you're interested in even more shots of the Foleo in action, checkout PIC's hands on preview from the announcement.
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RE: I still want one
I don't know what consequences would arise from failing to return one.
Anyway, these reviews are nothing compared to actually touching/feeling one hands on.
RE: I still want one
They'd give you a job at Palm. Lucky you gave it back!!
RE: I still want one
Naw. You don't need to keep a Foleo to get a job at Palm. ;)
RE: I still want one
"Many men stumble across the truth, but most manage to pick themselves up
and continue as if nothing had happened."
- Winston Churchill
RE: I still want one
Was there anything really wrong about what the Foleo had to offer??
Wifi (even if 802.11B)
Nice Screen (10")
Great weight
Nice Keyboard
Ability to do Office Docs
Nice Battery life
Flash Memory with SD and CF slots
An UltraLight by any other name...
RE: I still want one
...i am flopping on the ground gasping for air...
Will Engadget reply?
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Two questions that I think are pertinent and will probably not be answered:
1) How did you get it?
2) Why is it missing all brand markings?
RE: Will Engadget reply?
RE: Will Engadget reply?
RESIGN, Colligan!! Damn you, RESIGN!!!
RE: Will Engadget reply?
If it was the property of an ex-Palm employee, maybe they removed it out of spite. And spat on it. And then burned it.
(the 'ryan' referred to in my post above, btw, is ryan from this site, not ryan block who wrote the engadget article.)
Who is CEO of palm, anyway?
I asked employee C11329 to be transfered to her manager. She told me she was the most senior person at Palm. I asked her again politely to transfer me to her manager. She told me she had none. I asked to be transfered to the person that was reviewing her work, giving her assignments, etc.. I was told she had none. I told her I felt that was odd as, apart from the chairman and CEO, I didn’t know of anyone in a company not having a manager. She told me she was the CEO.
USR Palm Pilot 1000 --> Palm Pilot Professional --> TRG SuperPilot --> Palm IIIc --> Palm V --> Palm M505 --> Palm M515 --> Tungsten T|2 --> Treo 600 --> LifeDrive --> iPhone
RE: Will Engadget reply?
-- http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=158358&highlight=layoffs
*I'm* the CEO of Palm now!
Right, having sorted that out, I thought the first reply to that support woes post was hilarious:
>>>Tristan, what right do you have to complain? You got to speak to the CEO of the company! That’s great service! :-D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Oh, and my second move as Newly Self-Appointed CEO of Palm is: A call to Asus to tell them it's All Right to mimic the full-size keyboard and better screen of the Foleo. And that I'm moving PalmOS onto the new Intel Mobile Hardware Platform and that Asus will be building the Foleo II. Or, as I am going to now rebrand it, the Foleo, Mike Cane Corrected Edition.
Save your pennies!
*I'm* the CEO of Palm now!
Opera, take your goddammed cheapass browser and shove it!
Foleo, The Mike Cane Corrected Edition will be using FIREFOX.
Even Die!Nokia!Die! dumped your asswipe browser in their latest Anti-Net Tab.
RE: Will Engadget reply?
No wonder I couldn't find anything with a "Reagan MacNamara" search!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/04/23/60II/main287292.shtml
RE: Will Engadget reply?
Defending himself against accusations of lying in 1983, he is quoted as saying, "That's not a lie, it's a terminological inexactitude."
RE: Will Engadget reply?
you got to love this guy...
In 1980, Spiro Agnew published a memoir in which he implied that, in 1973, Richard Nixon and Haig had planned to assassinate him if Agnew refused to resign the Vice-Presidency, and that Haig told him "to go quietly … or else."
Go bite yourself, Colligan
Saturday, December 22nd, 2007
According to DigiTimes, ASUS beat their initial expectations of shipping 300,000 Eee PC’s this quarter by 50,000. That means that there are already 350,000 Eee PC’s out there!
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
RE: Go bite yourself, Treotards
http://www.gearlive.com/news/article/q407-iphone-113-firmware-feature-gallery/
Weep.
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
-- http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=ssjl_em5Rjk&feature=related
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
Com'on. I don't even own a Treo, nor do I want any of the current offerings from Palm in their smartphone category. And I'm obviously not a Treo fanboy (based on how I've ripped on the current line in the past). But trying to mock Treo users because the iPhone has a nifty little game is pretty weak. How about coming back with the "attitude" when the iPhone finally does things like covering the basic PIM functions properly, having cut & paste, and really being open to third-party apps. Quite a few of us still consider getting something of value accomplished to be a compelling reason to choose one device over another.
Incidentally, I couldn't get that gearlive link to load anything, so I still don't know what new features are actually coming with the next firmware update (and I sure as heck am not interested enough to go searching for it myself). Maybe it actually will include some compelling reason to choose the iPhone....? I'm sure if it does, you'll be back to tell us all about it. (And even if it doesn't, you'll be back to tell us all about it.)
"twrock is infamous around these parts" (from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
>
> Yes, that's a cool little game. Looks like it would occupy my
> attention for about ... three minutes.
It's pretty amazing how you consistently can miss the forest for the trees.
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
Ok, I'll bite. Explain the forest and the trees from your perspective. But please, at least include how this little app fits into the grand scheme of things.
"twrock is infamous around these parts" (from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
I mean, outside of doing it to your hair?
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
As usual, your attitude is All Wrong... here is a clue...
http://fakesteve.blogspot.com/2007/12/no-idea-what-this-is-all-about.html
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
I'm still waiting for SV to explain it ALL to me.
In the mean time, why don't you find yet another "innovative" way of telling Colligan to resign. I don't think it's very clear what you think on that matter. With all of the "teasing" going on around here, no one can be sure what you really think.
(twrock heads off to put his freshly teased hair up in curlers and manicure his bratwurst sized finger while he awaits more profundity from the MC/SV duo....)
"twrock is infamous around these parts" (from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
See what happens when you have to wear pinstripes?
Poor guy.
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
"twrock is infamous around these parts" (from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
Good God! When did Yankowski's IPO suit wind up at Goodwill?! (And how did Gekko miss it?)
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
"twrock is infamous around these parts" (from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
http://ganley.org/bags/bags.html
"twrock is infamous around these parts" (from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: Go bite yourself, Colligan
-- http://www.ambientdevices.com/cat/team.html
Still the 'right' form factor
Maybe they could have shaved off a few more millimeters on the right side of the keyboard and made the backslash key square as well, but IMO they really did nail the form factor on the Foleo. Now that's a keyboard I could type on. And they even include a trackpoint instead of a touchpad. Very nice. I wish ASUS would make an "adult-sized" Eee.
"twrock is infamous around these parts" (from my profile over at Brighthand due to my negative 62 rep points rating)
RE: Still the 'right' form factor
10.55″ x 6.67″ x .94″
Asus Eee dimensions:
8.9″ x 6.5″ x 0.82″
Mac Powerbook 100 dimensions:
11″ x 8.5″ x 1.8″
Mac Powerbook 2400 dimensions:
10.5″ x 8.5″ x 1.9″
Flybook dimensions:
9.3″ x 6.1″ x 1.2″
Fujitsu LifeBook P1610 Notebook dimensions:
9.13″ x 6.57″ x 1.36″/1.46″
Palm's Mullahs
We once had a wonderful term for that. It seems to have fallen into disuse. Time to brush it off: TUNNEL-VISION!
And the Foleo reaction in the press? This explains it:
>>>Elizabeth Newton, a psychologist, conducted an experiment on the curse of knowledge while working on her doctorate at Stanford in 1990. She gave one set of people, called “tappers,” a list of commonly known songs from which to choose. Their task was to rap their knuckles on a tabletop to the rhythm of the chosen tune as they thought about it in their heads. A second set of people, called “listeners,” were asked to name the songs.
>>>Before the experiment began, the tappers were asked how often they believed that the listeners would name the songs correctly. On average, tappers expected listeners to get it right about half the time. In the end, however, listeners guessed only 3 of 120 songs tapped out, or 2.5 percent.
>>>The tappers were astounded. The song was so clear in their minds; how could the listeners not “hear” it in their taps?
Hawkins, factor *that* into your neuro research! (Remember the demo of that someone posted on PIC. Christ, did that explain Foleo! The demo could only eat its own damned tail!)
NY Times article: http://tinyurl.com/3cxvmp
RE: Palm's Mullahs
The Palm Foleo Disaster: Part Two
http://mikecane.wordpress.com/2007/09/12/the-palm-foleo-disaster-part-two/
RE: Palm's Mullahs
>>>“Look for people with renaissance-thinker tendencies, who’ve done work in a related area but not in your specific field,” she says. “Make it possible for someone who doesn’t report directly to that area to come in and say the emperor has no clothes.”
Hey, Colligan, you brain-dead moron. That group includes virtually ALL PIC commenters!
And get this, you suitard, you've *already* established that PDAs are *not* worth more than $99 with that Centro price point. So don't think you're gonna pull a March Surprise and intro any sort of *new* PDA with a price *higher* than $99.
Got that?
RE: Palm's Mullahs
“When everybody knows that something is so, it means that nobody knows nothin’.” In other words, it becomes nearly impossible to look beyond what you know and think outside the box you’ve built around yourself.
It's the Mutual Admiration Society effect. Take any group with a goal/problem, limit them to interacting with each other, and often you'll see this pop up. People working on the same task convince themselves that what they have and what they've done is good and the direction they're headed is the right one ... because thinking otherwise would mean something bad - having wasted time, admitting defeat, loss of revenue, delay, poor performance review, getting fired, or failure.
You know you've encountered a mutual admiration society culture in a development group when they discard unsolicited feedback with comments like, "if you would have read the manual...", "you're not the target audience", "you haven't taken the class on how to use it", "our customers don't want that", "that's not on our roadmap", "we've already finished our usability testing", etc.
In most cases, I'd argue that if someone off the street can't figure out how to use your product, or complains about UI, design, features, functionality, performance, etc. they probably have a valid point and your product probably sucks.
Oh, and here's how Palm is spending their money nowadays... funding people to figure out text message delivery delays for new years.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/11895/12919/palm-new-years-text-delay.phtml
USR Palm Pilot 1000 --> Palm Pilot Professional --> TRG SuperPilot --> Palm IIIc --> Palm V --> Palm M505 --> Palm M515 --> Tungsten T|2 --> Treo 600 --> LifeDrive --> iPhone
RE: Palm's Mullahs
If you had RTFM, you would have realized not to respond to my posts as my customers don't want that and you're not the target audience anyway. Maybe you should sign up for my class first so you can navigate my roadmap that I've just finished testing...
Foleo, Take, uh, Two? One Point Five?
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2008/01/redfly_mobile_companion_for_smartphones.html
Redfly?! Isn't that a venereal disease?
RE: Foleo, Take, uh, Two? One Point Five?
WTF does it do? Mirror the WM smurfphone display so you can haz a bigger screen and keyboard?! So, basically, you're stuck using WM still? If so, Ew.
RE: Foleo, Take, uh, Two? One Point Five?
-- http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=33796
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