Comments on: Verizon Treo 700p MR Impressions
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RE: Exchange ActiveSync
http://forums.palm.com/palm/board/message?board.id=activesync&thread.id=1469
It appears that the MR has broken Exchange ActiveSync really bad.
It's a good thing they spent such a long time testing.
Arthur
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RE: Exchange ActiveSync
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=147841
Arthur
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Pictures
TBolt
RE: Pictures
Comparing my old 1.06 Treo, three colleagues' 700p's (also on Verizon & 1.06) and my new 1.10 700p, all of the cameras produce slightly different images. One unit is better than the others in low light, one has a lot of noise in its images, my new one is reddish, and my old one was yellowish and dim.
The Sprint 755p I evaluated had a better camera than any 700p I've ever used. It's still nothing spectacular but it produced the most "real world" images as far as color saturation & low-light performance. Decent dumbphones with autofocus lenses still blow away any Treo camera, of course.
But back to the 700p: I'd say that overall there is a bit less noise and better low-light performance in my new 700p but that comes at the expense of color accuracy and with a huge shift in everything towards the pink/red scale. I debated on sending the new 700p back to Verizon but decided to keep it b/c I didn't want to be Treo-less over the weekend and b/c they've stopped overnighting replacement handsets these days. It REALLY irks me that I've not been able to get a replacement 700p from any of the local stores for some time now.
FWIW, I actually think Verizon is looking to downplay smartphone and their inherent support costs/hassle and instead push loaded featurephones (like the Maxx VE and the EnV)
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RE: Pictures
I'll say this...after owning 2 smartphones, I'd NEVER consider going back to a "dumbphone" as you call 'em. :)
TBolt
Treo 700p before and after update pics have been added
Network Identifier Missing After Update
RE: Network Identifier Missing After Update
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RE: Network Identifier Missing After Update
HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
I have a Sprint 700p 1.08, Hardware A. I used to have a Sprint 650 with few problems. My 700p was fine for the first few weeks and now it's gone crazy! I've added no new software and have plenty of memory left (i have only 6 simple small applications installed), but all of a sudden it's doing constant self-resets. Is anyone else having this problem?
RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
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RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
(kidding!!!)
RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
No but wouldn't the reset clear cache anyway? I have cache empty at close set on Blazer and I never use Google Maps.
>Also do you have the Palm BT or IR keyboard drivers installed?
No.
this is very annoying. i don't need this aggravation. i wish we would switch to BlackBerry.
Welcome to Treo 700p HELL, Kiddo.
2) If you use Blazer set it to flush the browser cache whenever you exit the app.
3) What apps do you have installed?
P.S. Welcome to Treo 700p HELL. Population: Everyone who owns one. I would have told Sprint to replace my piece of sh!t Treo 700p with a 755p but that would trash my extended battery etc and I refuse to downgrade to losing my regular SD slot, etc. Plus the fit + finish of the 755p seems worse than my 700p. Palm should have spent the money it blew on the FOOLeo, buying back the Palm name, etc on fixing all the damn problems in the Treo lineup. iPhone and the new BlackBerries etc are going to beat the crap out of the Treo sales from now on. And Palm deserves everything the competition is going to inflict on them. Can't wait to hear "Stutterin'" Ed Colligan explain why Palm is $50 million in the red this quarter.
Too bad Samsung dumped PalmOS.
TVoR
RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
I s'pose the question is: if Seidio can do it, Palm, why couldn't you?
RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
Too bad Samsung dumped PalmOS.
Yes, just imagine a Samsung Blackjack running Palm OS. Now that would have been legendary!
RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
They did it three reasons alone IMO :
#1 Because Palm are in cahoots with Sandisk et al. and want to see everyone fork over more $ for YANMF (yet another new memory format).
#2: 8gb fullsize SDHC cards are out now, widespread, and affordable. 16gb SDHC cards will likely be around by Christmas. Yet 4gb miniSDHC cards are rarer than hen's teeth and still not very popular. And 8gb miniSDHC cards aren't even out yet!
Palm realizes that FrankenGarnet hits the wall with 4gb volume sizes. They do NOT want to have to deal with customer support requests as to why their Treos are seeing an 8gb card as two separate volumes nor do they want to have to spend the $ to pay the codemonkeys to hack Garnet to recognize larger-sized volumes. So what's the easiest solution? REGRESS to a less capacious, pricier media format so Palm can buy them another 6-12 months of doing NOTHING. This is for the same reasons why Palm cannot even get a Vista-compliant version of Palm Desktop out and why they took over a year to release the 700p's ROM update---laziness, greed, stinginess, arrogance and complacency.
#3. Not wanting to spend any $ to make any REAL improvements to the 755p other than removing the antenna and installing a slightly higher capacity, Palm figured ANY change--even if it's a step backwards--is better than no change at all. So they go with miniSD just to have SOMETHING new to tout on the 755p's product description.
Another possible reason is that if consumers can have larg-capacity (8gb and beyond), cheap memory cards in their Treos they will clamor even harder for "yesterday's" multimedia features like 320x480 LCDs and 3.5mm stereo headphone jacks. So it's in Palm's best interests to keep customers stuck on smaller capacity memory cards in order to mitigate the Treo's hobbled multimedia capabilities, especially in light of a slew of increasingly media-savvy BlackBerry releases.
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Replacement 700p w/ 1.10 ROM is already buggy!
According to several CS reps and store employees, the 700wx is a "much more popular" unit due to having "better software and more memory" over the 700p.
IMO, Verizon will (at best) do with the 755p like Sprint did the now-mythical T608. If you recall, the T608 was the first CDMA phone w/ Bluetooth and the FINAL CDMA phone from Sony-Ericsson. They will release a handful of units for sale only on their website and through indirect agents b/c they've probably already got a few thousand sitting in a warehouse somewhere.
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RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
another sucker waiting for 755p on verizon
RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
Or it could be true. But I'm betting not.
RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
However, Greenberg is a well-known and well-read author who JUST wrote that AND the post above in question was a reply to hkklife's post (note Subject) pretty much noting similar problems.
RE: HELP: My Treo 700p Constantly Resets Itself!
I have no idea why this could be. I most certainly "know what I am doing" but it appears infrequently when you have a freshly-hard reset device and becomes exacerbated by loading/syncing programs & data to th device (ironically, much like the 700p's original lag problem!).
Of interest is that the problem began manifesting itself MUCH more frequently once I installed VersaMail 3.5.4 AND after I Hotsync'd my 700p for the first time.
Could AddIt be the culprit? Or the VM libraries?
Regardless, I'd still rather have a 1.10 700p than the horrible 1.06 version.
After living with the 1.10 700p ROM for several weekse I still cautiously recommend it over the original 700p ROM version IF you live in an area with strong EVDO coverage. I'd probably rate the original 700p ROM as a 1.4/5 or 2/5 and the 1.10 update for Verizon as a 2.5/5 or, at best, 3/5.
If the 700p 1.10 was flawless I'd probably still prefer it over a 755p given the larger battery capacity, larger, brighter keyboard and fullsize SDHC. But as it stands now the 755p is still a more reliable device overall and I HIGHLY doubt we'll ever see another update issued for the 700p. Verizon's probably just gonna try to migrate all of the frustrated 700p users over to 700wx's or BlackBerries and be done with it.
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please help.
tom
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Exchange ActiveSync
Everything else is pretty much covered in this article. If you're dependent on Exchange ActiveSync, and you don't have control over your Exchange server, (I do) then I'd hold off.
Arthur
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