Quickies: Treo, Strange Horizons, CASL

A Palm rep brought a prototype model of the Handspring Treo 180 to this week's SacPUG meeting. Check out the pictures for size comparisons with the m100 and HandEra 330. -TypeMRT and aaron w

Fictionwise is now releasing monthly eBook versions of Strange Horizons, a popular small press science fiction and fantasy magazine. The August 2001 issue is now online for free. It contains original fiction, poetry, interviews and nonfiction articles related to science fiction and fantasy. -Scott Pendergrast

The recent winners of the CASL Developer Spotlight Contest include:

  • TimeJar by JarDesign Ky allows an users to track clients and hours worked and create Excel compatible timesheets
  • HandFBall by Frank Golazeski allows the play by play scoring of a football game, and displays game summary information.
  • NFL 2001 Schedules by PDA Schedules provides the complete schedule and weekly statistics for the league.
  • Michael a.k.a. WB4HUC, a ham radio enthusiast, has developed a Palm controller for the TEN-TEC RX-320 shortware (hf) radio receiver. The Palm device controls the receiver's settings through the serial port. There are a number of screens with buttons for settings. The most common settings can be changed from the Palm device's hardware buttons.

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I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 2:17:58 PM #
Wow! Sexy...

RE: Treo:
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 3:21:29 PM #
I'll second that motion! :) Very sleek!

Treo is nice but the screen is WAY too small.
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 6:25:48 PM #
They sure sacrificed a lot of screen. It's way smaller than the m100 series screen. I think it would be hard for any current Palm user to use a screen that small. Especially without color (but I know that's coming).

RE: Treo:
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 6:54:08 PM #
Ditto. Why can't they make the screen bigger?

RE: Treo:
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 7:25:57 PM #
>Ditto. Why can't they make the screen bigger?

Um...because that would make the device bigger maybe?

RE: Treo:
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 11:50:08 AM #
I think that the smaller size is for use as a phone. The current width of the Visor makes it uncomfortable to use as a phone. I like the smaller size.

RE: Treo:
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 11:36:09 PM #
For those of us that use our Palm for database, e-books,timekeeping and so much more we want the bigger screen. How about a headset?

RE: Treo:
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/22/2001 12:45:57 AM #
For those of us that want the ideal compromise between compact size and usability we want the screen exactly the way it is. Make the unit any bigger and no-one is going to want to carry it around - no matter how amazing a PDA it may be. The key here is to make users pay as small a penalty as posssible in terms of size, by geting a PDA into the package of a regular (or ideally, small) cellphone.

How about you stop whining and let the market decide if Handspring has made the right compromises? If you want a bigger screen, get a VisorPhone. They're selling like hotcakes to people like you who demanded a large screen. What's that? You don't like the VisorPhone either? Too bad.

Build your own and show us how easy it is to please everyone.

I love the treo

o @ 10/20/2001 8:40:21 PM #
Who's going to buy it when it comes out?

RE: I love the treo
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 8:55:17 PM #
ME !!

RE: I love the treo
Coyote67 @ 10/20/2001 9:26:28 PM #
I'm a little verklempt about this. On one hand, I want the treo, but on the other, I have 5 springboard modules, and do not want to give them up. I'm pondering on getting the sprintpcs digital link. It provides all the functions the Treo without the keyboard. And it has much more talk time.

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RE: I love the treo
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 10:36:01 PM #
With the introduction of the Edge and it having an add on adapter for the springboard modules, they pretty much screwed you "spring(bored)" owners. Now, with the Treo not having any expansion, I wonder what direction Handspring is going....besides down the toilet of course.

RE: I love the treo
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 11:54:41 PM #
I think at the time, the Springboard was a big advantage when no one else had expansion. Now that Palm and Sony offer PDAs that can have more memory, the Springboard is just too big and holding Handspring back a bit. They still have the advantage that they can add things more than just memory but sooner or later, Palm will build those technoligies into their handhelds or come out with SD cards that do most of what the springboards do (just a guess).
Question is, why can't handspring move to the SD card and have the springboard be a sleeve that connects through the SD slot? I know this isn't a perfect solution but it would at least give the majority of people who just want memory expansion a small handheld and those with springboards the ability to use them.

RE: I love the treo
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 12:07:41 AM #
If they did that then you might as well just buy a palm instead of the Handspring.

RE: I love the treo
jeremyf @ 10/21/2001 6:36:19 AM #
I'm wondering what the color version has compared to the b/w version... $200 more expensive seems like you'd get more than just a color screen...

Maybe it'll have an SD slot? Maybe it'll be 320x320?

I'm definitely for either/both!

320x320 on that tiny screen would be kind of ridiculous though.. but at the same time, I'd like it lots. :)

If it doesn't have either/both, I think I'll prolly stick to whats I got

RE: I love the treo
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 3:25:44 PM #
You don't need 320 x 320 when the pixels are that small with a smaller screen. The human eye cannot detect the difference.

Ed- Why would a *PALM* rep bring a *Handspring* Treo?

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 1:28:30 AM #
I really don't know why I am posting this, but oh well...

RE: Ed- Why would a *PALM* rep bring a *Handspring* Treo?
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 2:47:13 AM #
I was wondering the same thing. Shouldn;t the Palm rep be bringing the I705 or whatever it is called?

RE: Ed- Why would a *PALM* rep bring a *Handspring* Treo?
bcombee @ 10/21/2001 3:26:30 AM #
Maybe he was a representative from the Palm OS Platform group that will be spun off soon. If he was in that group, then his responsibilities are to all of the Palm OS licensees, not just Palm.

RE: Ed- Why would a *PALM* rep bring a *Handspring* Treo?
Ed @ 10/21/2001 3:42:18 PM #
> Ed- Why would a *PALM* rep bring a *Handspring* Treo?

Because the Treo runs the Palm OS, Palm's primary product. I thing many people have a skewed idea of the relationship between Palm and Handspring. There are so many strongly partisan comments posted here that some might get the idea that Palm and Handspring themselves are constantly at odds. Nothing could be be further from the truth. While they compete against each other, they also cooperate. I've never spoken to any employee from either company who didn't describe the relationship between the two as very friendly.

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RE: Ed- Why would a *PALM* rep bring a *Handspring* Treo?
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 5:59:17 PM #
I also would find it very unusual that Palm would be displaying a "protoptype" model from a company that is not theirs.

RE: Ed- Why would a *PALM* rep bring a *Handspring* Treo?
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 6:27:50 PM #
Visor people are nicer than Palm people. I pray for more animosity between both camps.

Treo is in Milan!

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 4:57:00 AM #
Hello guys.
I am an italian Visor fan and i wanted to let you know that there are two Treo (one with Graffiti and one with keyboard) demoed at the SMAU expo in Milan. They are fully functional and there was really a lot of people at the Handspring booth. I personally had the chance to try it for 5 min and it is really great but the most impressive thing is the size, incredibly small.
I think this is the first real integrated usable product so far.



RE: Treo is in Milan!
jonecool @ 10/21/2001 1:51:10 PM #
Thanks Max for the update! Sounds like it's going to be a pretty cool device. I use a VisorPrism/VisorPhone myself. A great device, but I'd like something smaller (with Color and 16MB). I have allot of springboards, I'd hate to part with those though :( I wish there was some way I could move to the Treo line and still be able to use my investment in Springboards... Hopefully a new Color Visor is around the corner too.

RE: Treo is in Milan!
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/21/2001 11:41:42 PM #
Max, how was the screen. I use my palm at least 1-2 hrs a day.

RE: Treo is in Milan!
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/22/2001 9:28:19 AM #
The color version will be here not before June 2002, but remeber that color makes sense ONLY if battery is good, and good in this case means at least like a good gsm phone. The screen is smaller than Palm 125, same resolution, i found it more detailed (probably for the fact that it is smaller). The GOOD thing is that this cool gadget is SMALL and 135 grams!!



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