Palm IIIc - The First Color Palm... Screw up?

The much anticipated color Palm has arrived on your favorite retailer's shelves. In this review the WiredGuy will point out what others haven't. The WiredGuy will reveal Palm's sneaky wording, and let you know exactly what he think of the new Palm IIIc.

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Autistic reviewer

mikecane@wildmail.com @ 3/9/2000 12:39:42 PM #
What an idiotic review! Compaq is *still* selling a monochrome WinCE device; in fact, size-wise, it is just about as thin as a Palm. Mercury Labs's battery test is more credible than the assertions in this review. As for RAM, 8 megs on a Palm is equal to a hell of a lot more than that 32 megs on a 105! This review makes no sense and makes me wonder about the veracity of other stuff Kettner publishes. mc

Clueless

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/9/2000 12:42:09 PM #
The wiredguy is a moron. He doesn't even take into account the "trickle chargedown" for the Palm IIIc during the 2 weeks it's on which gives it MUCH more than 7 hours of battery life. He's got a huge anti-Palm agenda going for some reason and his arguments are not based on the facts.

He's just upset that the Palm IIIc doesn't play MP3s and movies. Who ever said it would?!?

It's also annoying how he refers to himself in the 3rd person all the time, even on his own site.

It's the OS stupid!!!

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/9/2000 5:10:35 PM #
OK Let's get down to the real problem. I don't care of a CE device tapdances, makes me dinner and then takes me out to a movie. It's still got an inefficient, unfriendly, unreliable OS. Palm isn't succesful because of their hardware. The Palm OS is the star of the show.

Palm IIIc

George Gray @ 3/9/2000 6:07:49 PM #
This 'review' is without merit. It appears to me that this person is trying to justify some other purchase they made. The biggest problem I have with the IIIc (and, yes, I have one) is the lack of software...but that should rectify itself shortly. Just the improved readability AND, contrary to what I have been reading, the rechargeable battery make the purchase worthwhile. Not being able to add that little pager card does not bother me one iota. As long as I can plug into the serial port, I'm happy. What we should all be more concerned with is the now three types of 'slots' that are going to be used: springboard, (Visor), the TRG slot and, when it hits the market, the Sony memory stick. This is going to fracture the Palm market more than the lack of an expansion slot on a few devices. The IIIc is an introductory device anyway.

Wired Guy is Not Wired to Tight

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/9/2000 6:10:22 PM #
The review on the Palm IIIc completely off base. Palm has said all along that they are not trying to design a "swiss army knife". The beauty of the Palm is the simplicity and what a good job it does at doing what it does. Who would want to drain the batteries playing MP3's, when they have all their business applications that they use on a daily basis.

The Palm IIIc has a wonderful screen - period, thats the lowdown.

He's just out to get hits

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/9/2000 7:52:13 PM #
Kettner (or however he spells it) is just a glory hound anyways. His review reminds me of a tabloid report about an incident based in fact but totally embellished for the sake of drama. He's trying to act like all the other reviews that give the Palm IIIc good marks are missing the real issues. The problem is, the "real issue" is he's just out to get hits, not provide useful, non-biased reviews.

Wired Guy has Shorted Out

Jeff Brown @ 3/9/2000 9:28:04 PM #
The "review" is a pitiful piece of bias. It degrades the quality of the web site. Hopefully the author makes a living at something other than his writing.

I think he makes a good point.

prof187 @ 3/9/2000 10:04:48 PM #
I think that he does make a good point. I don't own a Palm, I'm just getting this from reviews and things of that nature. I mean it's nice and all but basically it just makes everything in color. It costs about $300 dollars more than a Palm IIIe and I'm sure you buy $300 dollars in batteries and just leave the backlight on all the time if you just want the clarity. I'm not against the Palm IIIc, if someone came up to me and offered me on for free I'd be more than happy to take it, but it sounds like it just is something to make it "pretty." I'm not defending the Wiredguy, I'm just saying that you might want to take what he says into consideration, he DOES make a few good points.
RE: I think he makes a good point.
J Elgenia @ 3/9/2000 11:32:02 PM #
erm, i think colour would make a big diffrence. I havn't met any users of the IIIc in the newsgroups who dont go bonkers over the colour once they use the IIIc. Also, the IIIc doesn't take batteries, it has a built in rechargable pack that gets filled up when you sync it. Of course you have read lots of IIIc reviews so you knew that eh? There is a lot of diffrence between a Palm IIIe and a Palm IIIc.
RE: I think he makes a good point.
MadMax @ 3/9/2000 11:51:18 PM #
Dear prof187,

One day you too will become educated like the rest of the "free world" (Palm World actually) and come to realize what you wrote previously was from an ignorant point of view. I'm not lashing out or name calling, merely stating what I believe to be inevitable. As J Elgenia pointed out the IIIc has a rechargeable battery (lithium ion); If you have owned any piece of electronics you'd know this totally kicks ass and nothing more can be said about that. Even as I write this I wonder if your "ignorance" warrants a response but my fingers tell me I must speak out to defend the oh so powerful "Palm world"; so, I ask you this, "If what you said is true about not owning a Palm, what are you doing at the Palminfocenter Web site?"
So save yourself further embarrassment & remove that piece of illiteracy you called "I think he makes a good point.", before someone has the opportunity to say that about this!
BTW, I'm writing this on my PalmVx using Proxiweb and my Omnisky modem. How'bout you?

MadMax-The Road Warrior

Wireguy Needs a Rewiring Job

Perplexed @ 3/10/2000 5:13:09 AM #
So how many of you would trade your color monitor or laptop for a monochrome?

Wired has Questionable Agenda

I.M. Anonymous @ 3/10/2000 10:50:51 AM #
Why would you evaluate and critize a product on what they are clearly not trying to do? The IIIc is NOT trying to do Multimedia, MP3's, etc.

My battery is doing fine. Who would go days without hot-synching(and thereby charging). I have played games for hours and there is still a 1/2 battery charge. I have not been able to run the battery down because I hot-synch on a regular basis.

the review seems pretty objective...

Hagios @ 3/10/2000 11:04:44 AM #
He just shows the numbers. How can you call him biased? It sounds like a lot of you palm owners need to lighten up a little. That's great that you love Palm, but it's ok for someone to prefer something else!?
Objective, only if you don't care about the facts
I.M. Anonymous @ 3/10/2000 11:22:22 AM #
The numbers? How do you get 30 minutes a day for 14 days to equal 7 hours of battery life? Any first day tech reporter would KNOW to factor in the trickle down battery life since the unit is still POWERED when it's not ON. Just as your AAA's will run out over time even if you never turn your Palm on, so does the Li-Ion of the IIIc and any other PDA. To make such a poor GUESS at the IIIc's battery life is reckless. Then throw in the fact that battery life tests HAVE BEEN DONE showing 16 hours of continuous on-time which he CAN'T *NOT* know about and his "objective numbers" become a complete fabrication and his true purpose becomes clear. He's pissed that the IIIc isn't Windows CE, it's that simple.

Why are we giving this guy the time of day?

Tinuviel @ 3/11/2000 1:29:15 AM #
Obviously this "reviewer" is a complete moron and has no idea what he is talking about. Did you see the side view of the 3 units stacked on top of each other? On top (where it belongs) is the sleek and svelt IIIc, under it were what appeared to be 2 bricks. Then he goes on to say the IIIc has a "slight advantage" in size.
Sure most CE machines have 16-32 megs-They NEED it! And since most of CE apps are 1/2 a meg to a MB in size, 16MB on CE can hardly even equal the 8MB on the Palm. Out of the 38 programs on my IIIc only 4 of them are over 100k- AvantGo, CityTime Color beta, Gammon, and Zap!2000 color beta.
I will not be visiting the WiredGuy site from here on. This review has made it questionable to me how valid and unbiased any of their writing is. I'm sure this review was posted just to get as many hits as possible so they can charge more from advertisers, so I for one will not be going back.

Passion

e-tellurian @ 3/11/2000 10:45:44 AM #
This is a great example of passion. I have no doubt
that each and every one of you is very successful at
what you do. It is this kind of open honorable
exchange that much is accomplished. We can agree to
disagree. In the end we all have gained a little more
knowledge.

Good point...

Sandro Campos Mancini @ 3/12/2000 11:54:34 AM #
There is only ONE thing that can explain why someone would get a Palm IIIc instead of a Casio E-105: Palm OS. It's what Windows CE should be. Please Casio, do license the Palm OS and port it to your machines!
RE: Good point...
Phil R @ 3/19/2000 8:05:44 PM #
Right on!! Casio & Palm OS, I'd buy that. (As a bonus could I have a CF slot as well?!?)

Good point...

Sandro Campos Mancini @ 3/12/2000 12:08:07 PM #
There is only ONE thing that can explain why someone would get a Palm IIIc instead of a Casio E-105: Palm OS. It's what Windows CE should be. Please Casio, do license the Palm OS and port it to your machines!
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